Still going to be doing a SS chimney liner this year but now you guys got me thinking about going to the 6" versus the 8" I was previously thinking about (adding to the possibilities of different stoves). Now, as I think about some of the other possibilities, as I get ready to replace the old Vigilant (was considering only the defiant, or encore, mainly because of the top loading, and my "brand loyalty") I did a lot of looking around (online), and am now heavily leaning to the Hearthstone - most likely the Heritage, maybe the Mansfield, depending on what the mason says when he gets here to see how he can get the liner down through. It may be real tight to do the Mansfield, and still keep the required clearance on the hearth - but we'll see what he can do. Now to the question - looking at just about every online picture of different models, I did notice something, which may or may not warrant any concern on my part. It seems that most "glass front", or stoves where you can view the fire do not have andirons either built in, or as an option. The only ones I've seen them in are VC or Woodstock soapstone - maybe a few more, but not many. Doesn't the burning wood have a chance to roll down and hit the glass? Is this a potential problem, or just something you may have to be careful of while loading?, or not an issue at all? Lastly, maybe a question to DonCT, and Mountainstoveguy (Both very nice install pics by the way) - the main "bad" comments in the review section of the Heritage seemed to point to the ash pan, and that it doesn't seem to have a good design to work really well (but, hey... I'm used to shoveling out to clean ashes), so I'm not really bothered by that - just wondering what your experience has been - as well as overall with the stove. OK.... now this is really the last question, and sorry for getting off topic about the andirons.... there was a previous post about QC at Hearthstone and being the result of getting rid of (warehouse manager?). I don't remember who posted that, but have things improved or deteriorated since then? Thanks, and my appologies to the moderator... I didn't mean for this topic to go off in all directions by my questions.