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  1. mepellet Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 10, 2011
    1,499 posts
    Central ME
    I switched over to auto about a week ago. There was a day that I left the stove in manual but otherwise its been warm enough outside to leave the stove in auto. Probably turns on about 6 times a day or so. Anyone else make the switch yet?
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  2. Don2222 Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 1, 2010
    5,383 posts
    Salem NH
    Hello

    Not sure what you mean?

    The Auto/Manual toggle switch on the Harman P61A is for the ignitor. When the switch is in manual mode, it disconnects the ignitor and then you have to light the pellets with starting gel.

    Room temperature mode uses the ignitor. When the room temp probe senses the temp set on the dial, so when the room heats up to the set temperature, the stove shuts down.

    Stove temperature mode will always keep the stove running on the low heat setting.
  3. mepellet Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 10, 2011
    1,499 posts
    Central ME
    Really? :confused: Take another look at the harman sticky.
  4. Don2222 Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 1, 2010
    5,383 posts
    Salem NH
    Well, that is what I was told. Please explain. Thanks
  5. mepellet Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 10, 2011
    1,499 posts
    Central ME
    The sticky does an excellent job at explaining the four different modes that you can run a harman in. A harman with an ignitor that is. I think other stoves refer to it as on/off and hi/low modes?
  6. Bigjim13 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jan 5, 2009
    451 posts
    Central Vermont
    What are we talking about here? Room temp vs stove temp or auto vs manual?

    On my P61 next to the auto/manual switch it says igniter, so I assumed the switch was for the igniter. Have I been wrong all these years?
  7. mepellet Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 10, 2011
    1,499 posts
    Central ME
    Room temp auto vs. manual. I run in room temp 99% of the time.
  8. Justin M Member

    joined: Dec 22, 2008
    158 posts
    Southbury, CT
    I've been on auto for most of the last week too after being on manual all winter(room temp.).
  9. Dollabill New Member

    Started this monday during the day !
  10. bmanMA New Member

    joined: Jan 26, 2013
    23 posts
    Lunenburg, MA
    I have also been RT/Auto during the day this last few days, but not at night.
  11. Mike D Burning Hunk

    joined: Nov 7, 2008
    228 posts
    North Haven, CT
    Nope. If I know the day is going to be in the mid to upper 40's and the sun is going to be out, the stove gets shut off during the day while we are work/school. My wife will turn it back on when she gets home mid afternoon. Saves pellets and wear and tear on the ignitor. Otherwise I always run it on manual.
  12. Bigjim13 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jan 5, 2009
    451 posts
    Central Vermont
    Isn't the auto/manual switch for the igniter only?
  13. Bigjim13 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jan 5, 2009
    451 posts
    Central Vermont
    Just read through the Harman sticky. How often do your stoves go out during the day? Even in room temp mine doesn't go out so I have never switched it to manual, only gone back and forth between stove and room temp.
  14. imacman Minister of Fire

    If you mean switching from Hi-Lo to On-Off, no, haven't don that yet. I wait until outside temps are consistently in the mid to high 40's before I switch.
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  15. lessoil Minister of Fire

    joined: May 31, 2008
    659 posts
    Western Maine
    Yup, started a couple days ago running room temp with ignitor in Auto at night vs ignitor in manual.
    Trying to stretch the last 45 bags to end of April. Also upstairs bedrooms are staying warmer so
    trying to keep sleeping temps down.
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  16. Hoot23 Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 28, 2012
    506 posts
    Alfred, Me
    Tried it at the beginning of the week, but it still cycles on and off to much for my liking. Still in manual.
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  17. gbreda Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 3, 2009
    1,206 posts
    Lakes Region, NH
    Agree with hoot and imacman. Being a true basement dweller, I dont switch to auto or even room temp until it stays on the upper 40's consistently.

    ETA: just noticed there are no basement dwellers on this thread. Most likely wont be any switching over yet
  18. subsailor Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 8, 2011
    1,315 posts
    Winthrop, Maine
    If you run in room temp/auto, It will once it gets a little warmer.
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  19. mepellet Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 10, 2011
    1,499 posts
    Central ME
    Yes and no.
  20. mepellet Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 10, 2011
    1,499 posts
    Central ME
    This depends on a few factors but outside temp and wind speed play the largest role.

    You might actually be using the ignitor and not know it. When the stove starts it's shutdown process the feed motor runs much less frequent. Thus cooling the exhaust. Once the room temp probe senses temperature lower than the setpoint on the control board, it starts feeding pellets. The ignitor may actually be activated at this point. I have seen it happen on mine. When I come home while the stove is in room temp auto and in the shutdown process and I want to raise the room temp I turn up the thermostat (similar to turning the temp dial on the stove up) and the ignitor will turn on for a little while.
  21. mepellet Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 10, 2011
    1,499 posts
    Central ME
    Yes I believe it is pretty much the same on other stoves.
  22. mepellet Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 10, 2011
    1,499 posts
    Central ME
    Same here.
  23. Bigjim13 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jan 5, 2009
    451 posts
    Central Vermont
    Interesting. So if I switch it to manual will it continue feeding and keep the stove running on room temp? You have me fascinated with this switch I have never touched.
  24. Bigjim13 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jan 5, 2009
    451 posts
    Central Vermont
    Yes I know. I am more curious about the auto/manual switch.
  25. mepellet Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 10, 2011
    1,499 posts
    Central ME
    When the room setpoint is satisfied, the stove will go to a very low burn and the convection blower will turn off. When the room calls for heat, the stove will start the convection blower and start to feed pellets as required.

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