No idea Jake. I presume it is like other decent brand name machines: their lower end models are likely manufactured by another company however the higher end ones aren't. However I am purely speculating.....
Andrew
Andrew
Are these HP ratings on new tractors for real? My old 1963 Cub 123 hydrostatic had a 12hp Kohler K301, and ran a 48" mower deck or 42" snow blower, without slowing down. I bet it would pull one of these new 22hp lawn tractors backwards uphill, without much struggle.
Immediate and lasting satisfaction?Wonder what the ROI is on that one?
Of course, and yes, my CUT is diesel. But, my main point... the 1963 Cub Cadet was not. I would be willing to bet that 12 hp Cub Cadet had more real horsepower than the lawn tractors badged "22 hp" today. After all, it ran implements of equal size, with zero trouble. When it comes to running implements, horsepower is as important as torque, since you need to keep your mower deck or snow thrower at speed when loaded.It's not just horsepower, torque is important. Is the CUT diesel? If so, that would be like comparing apples to oranges.
This is true, you almost always run out of traction before horsepower, when pulling. However, running implements is another matter. You're not going to run a 42" or 48" mower deck thru tall grass in spring time without the HP to keep it turning at speed.Horsepower isn't the issue with the yard/garden tractors. They have plenty. Traction is the problem given their light weight.
Immediate and lasting satisfaction?
Amen, brother. I see these sub-compact utility tractors, going for five figures, and just can't understand it. I paid much less than the above-mentioned $9,520 for the 4wd Deere 855 in my post above. It's old, but it has a lot of years left in it.I get that and more with the $7320 savings by getting the Craftsman.
Keep that photo on hand for the next, "our economy is going to hell" thread, Bart. This is proof that even the rednecks have ample spare time and coin.I want this one.
Keep that photo on hand for the next, "our economy is going to hell" thread, Bart. This is proof that even the rednecks have ample spare time and coin.
I would be willing to bet that 12 hp Cub Cadet had more real horsepower than the lawn tractors badged "22 hp" today.
One of the goofiest things about the garden tractors is engines over 20 hp tied to the transmission with a single V belt.
That's my mower with an ariens name tag on it. Mine is a craftsman. Honestly, I love the thing.
Be warned though, this mower has the 500cc briggs engine that is known for popping head gaskets. Same engine is in the john deere mowers at home depot. I had mine pop last fall after mowing for a few years. I replaced the gasket myself with simple hand tools for the cost of the 10 dollar gasket from amazon.com and with the guidance of excellent youtube videos.
It's common in these small engines for the peak torque to be at many rpms less than the peak hp.
Thanks. I will have to check it out. The Ariens website says its a Kohler engine but HD clearly says its a Briggs. It must be a popular model to have 748 reviews. I don't quite understand the gear drive vs. hydrostatic. Does that mean that it has a clutch? I'd be just as happy with a Craftsman, but the orange is a little nicer than the grey