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  1. nate379 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 21, 2010
    4,010 posts
    Palmer, Alaska
    No, not true. There is ALWAYS someone (or several someones) at fault, just not always easy (or possible) to figure out who.

    Edit:

    Just wanted to ad, I mean no disrespect to anyone or the sitatution by saying the above. Just have been involved in crash or accident investigations and there is always a "cause and effect" that led to what happened. Could be that the company that built the crane used the wrong metals for the hook, too much weight lifted on it at some point and it was weak, etc, etc, etc.

    No matter how much ORM training and common sense is used parts fail and crap happens.

    I certainly hope everything works out.
    #76

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  2. swagler85 Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 4, 2012
    1,000 posts
    NE Ohio
    That's true, in a case like this it was a combination of everyone involved. If any one person there had done one thing just a little different there may have been a different outcome. But "what ifs" don't help what happened. Just need to learn from what happened and not allow something like that to happen again.
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  3. Gasifier Minister of Fire

    I don't care how carefull you are, and how much you try to be safe. It is still possible to have an accident. That is why they are called accidents. Hope your friend heals well Swag. Thankfully we have good hospitals and medicine.
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  4. fabsroman Minister of Fire

    joined: Jun 1, 2011
    942 posts
    West Friendship, Maryland
    Swag,

    Any update on your uncle? Assume it was the same guy you and your 20 man crew were splitting the wood for recently and thought I read in that thread that it was your uncle that you were doing it for.

    Hope everything is going as well as possible for him and kudos to everybody involved in getting those 5 cords split. Good to see a horrible story turning out to be a positive one.

    I've been following this thread since it started and have been paying attention to the medical updates too. Just didn't know what to say until now, and still do not know if this is even PC or enough.
  5. swagler85 Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 4, 2012
    1,000 posts
    NE Ohio
    He's doing really well, he even remembers the accident :( . They had him out of his bed and in a chair for a while yesterday. Very aware of what's going on and alert. He is great mentally, can't talk with his mouth wired shut and a tube in his throat though. He writes out questions and answers on paper. Asks about how his sons baseball team is doing, and what is going on. He should be moved into rehab and out of ICU next week. Also he had another grand baby yesterday, his daughter had her 3rd baby.
  6. fabsroman Minister of Fire

    joined: Jun 1, 2011
    942 posts
    West Friendship, Maryland
    Awesome news indeed. Sucks he missed the birth of the 3rd grandkid, but great that he is still breathing and will be able to meet the new addition at some point. Any coincidence that the baby was delivered in the same hospital he is in right now? Sounds like the recovery is going well. Really glad to hear this.
  7. HDRock Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 25, 2012
    1,155 posts
    Grand Blanc, Mi
    That's fantastic news,all around, thanks for the update.
    You all, hang in there
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  8. Gasifier Minister of Fire

    Great to hear Swag. Glad for your uncle, you, and your family Swag. Keep us posted.
  9. swagler85 Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 4, 2012
    1,000 posts
    NE Ohio
    No diff hospital, but very close. He should be able to meet the baby next week when he goes to recovery.
  10. Scotty Overkill firewood hoarder

    joined: Sep 24, 2011
    6,848 posts
    central PA
    Great news all around, buddy......glad he's doing so well. That could've been a LOT worse of a situation.
    Just saw the post on the splitting party you had the other day, just now put 2 and 2 together. I'll head over there for some comments....:p
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  11. tfdchief Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 24, 2009
    2,971 posts
    Tuscola, IL
    Swag, How is his pain. I am really glad he is doing well, but having had serious injuries, I suspect he is still in a lot of pain and will be for many months. Did they get him in a brace for the broken vertebrae?
  12. swagler85 Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 4, 2012
    1,000 posts
    NE Ohio
    No brace yet, he is dealing with an incredible amount of pain now. He is not one to ever show pain, but this he shows very much.
  13. fabsroman Minister of Fire

    joined: Jun 1, 2011
    942 posts
    West Friendship, Maryland
    I know people that had fewer injuries from a bad car wreck that have had pain all their life. Just looking at the pics from the incident makes me hurt all over and that huge log falling from 20+ feet above never even touched me. I would have to guess that he is going to be feeling the effects of this for quite some time, if not forever. Just hoping that it ends up not being a lot of ever lasting issues, or what are called permanencies. I am glad he lived and that he is healing.
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  14. Locust Post Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 12, 2012
    823 posts
    Northeast Ohio
    Sound like he is moving in the right direction. Praise God
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  15. tfdchief Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 24, 2009
    2,971 posts
    Tuscola, IL
    I was afraid of that. I remember that pain all to well. I still have a lot, but remembering when it was almost unbearable makes what I have now, OK. I have been praying for not only healing and recovery, but relief from that pain.:(
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  16. fabsroman Minister of Fire

    joined: Jun 1, 2011
    942 posts
    West Friendship, Maryland
    Yeah, sometimes we just have to accept that we are going to have pains the rest of our lives. I had lyme disease in September 2009. Actually started on August 30, 2009. Never actually got a positive test result to show it was indeed lyme, but they never figured out what it was. All the symptoms pointed to lyme (e.g., severe arthritis throughout my body, extreme fatigue, fever, terrible night sweats). About the middle of October, one of the 6 different specialists I saw finally decided to start me on doxycyclene (sp.) and within 3 days I was feeling like a new man.

    Thing is, I still have residuals. My feet and knees hurt on occasion, and mid last week my feet were really hurting. Comes on a lot worse when I am under stress (e.g., wife went back to work, it is busy season, and I am taking care of the kids a lot more now). Hurt so bad it was painful to walk. I just don't even bother telling my wife or parents anymore because they end up worrying themselves over something we cannot control and that I will just have to live with. It sucks, but it could be a lot worse.
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  17. swagler85 Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 4, 2012
    1,000 posts
    NE Ohio
    Well he continues to get better, he is being moved from the hospital to a local aultcare for his rehab. Thats only a few minutes from his family and home. His trach in his neck was reduced to a smaller one and he is continually more aware of things. Prayers are being answered!
  18. Locust Post Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 12, 2012
    823 posts
    Northeast Ohio
    Thanks for keeping us updated Swag. God is good all the time and all the time God is good.
  19. milleo Feeling the Heat

    joined: Aug 8, 2011
    297 posts
    Maine
    More prayers coming....
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  20. tfdchief Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 24, 2009
    2,971 posts
    Tuscola, IL
    Sounds good Swag. Keep updating so we know what he is up against. I can't wait for a year from now when things are really better, and I think they will be. Just everyone remember it is a long tough road for Tim. Everyday is a struggle, sometimes 10 minutes at a time. It "ain't" easy.:(
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  21. swagler85 Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 4, 2012
    1,000 posts
    NE Ohio
    Got his saw put back together and running!
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  22. milleo Feeling the Heat

    joined: Aug 8, 2011
    297 posts
    Maine
    Sweet! Best to your uncle.
  23. nate379 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 21, 2010
    4,010 posts
    Palmer, Alaska
    Air Force?
  24. swagler85 Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 4, 2012
    1,000 posts
    NE Ohio
    If you looking at the sweatshirt it is a Tenpoint logo. Tenpoint crossbow manufactures, company I used to work for.
  25. nate379 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 21, 2010
    4,010 posts
    Palmer, Alaska
    I guess I need to change out my contacts, looked like an Air Force logo. <>

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