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Creosote disposal

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by zhukpavlo, Oct 28, 2008.

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  1. zhukpavlo

    zhukpavlo New Member

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    Hello - I have tried searching but couldn't find anything on the site - What do you do with creosote - how do you dispose it?

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  2. jbrown56

    jbrown56 Feeling the Heat

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    Zhuk,

    There usually isn't much ash when I clean my liner so I just dump them in with the stove ashes in a metal trash can outside.

    Jim
  3. KeithO

    KeithO Minister of Fire

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    Throw it onto a nice deep bed of coals and you will be surprised how well it burns.
  4. Backwoods Savage

    Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

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    House plants love creosote! Also good for vegetable gardens. Or put it with the ashes, which is also good for gardens. But if you put ashes on gardens, spread them. Don't just dump them in a pile or you might do more harm than good.
  5. zhukpavlo

    zhukpavlo New Member

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    Thanks - I would be putting the ashes in the garden - but wasn't sure if creosote was safe to do so. Thanks again
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    Hey Backwoods, how do you apply the creosote to the houseplants? Do you dilute in water, or just work it into the soil a little? And how much do you put in?

    I've been thinking about this alot since I cleaned out my chimney..... %-P
  7. Backwoods Savage

    Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

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    We've never even measured it. Just mix some in with some of the soil and make sure it is covered so you don't get any of the smell. If you use on outdoor plants, then just spread some and rake it.

    With ashes, as I stated, spread them fairly thin; no more than an inch deep. We always store our ashes in barrels. Come spring, I spread them and till immediately. It's a poor man's lime but certainly doesn't last as long as lime so you can put it on every year with no ill effects. Note: our ground is yellow sand so it is very acidic, therefore, we need lots of lime.
  8. gpcollen1

    gpcollen1 Minister of Fire

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    Are not there carcinogens in creosote??
  9. Adios Pantalones

    Adios Pantalones Minister of Fire

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    Ya, google up creosote and soil. Most of the concern is from coal produced creosote used as a preservative. Not sure on wood produced.
  10. Backwoods Savage

    Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

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    That's okay. We don't plan on eating the creosote anyway.
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    Adios Pantalones Minister of Fire

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    it dissolves with rain and contaminates ground water as well. That's usually the big issue with most nasties in soil.
  12. zhukpavlo

    zhukpavlo New Member

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    So how do you dispose of it?
  13. Corey

    Corey Minister of Fire

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    Never heard of putting creosote in a garden...I'll have to take your word that plants love it...don't know what part of "condensed smoke" they would actually like, though? Maybe a boost in soil acidity or something.

    How do I dispose of it? Well - it's flammable, and after chimney cleaning, it's already in the firebox, so I just burn it up. I started putting ashes on the yard, garden, etc - but after a couple of years, everything is loaded up on potash and the soil is getting a little alkaline, so now most all ashes go into the trash now. Any remnants go out with that.
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    gpcollen1 Minister of Fire

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    Ummm...was this not you...

    Or put it with the ashes, which is also good for gardens.

    ...gardens with vegetables that get eaten....
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    I burn it. Why not give the stove a 2nd chance to do it right?

    Matt
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    yup that's what I do. Make sure the coals are hot though or you could make a crispy dense layer of tar over the coals.
  17. Backwoods Savage

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    And contrary to the belief of some, I am still quite alive as is the rest of the family! We've done this for years....and I am retired, so have eaten those veggies for years. We even put manure in our garden....and then eat the veggies! How absurd!!!!!
  18. zhukpavlo

    zhukpavlo New Member

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    I have some manure that I need to put into the garden - my parents tell me cow manure is the best... I have alredy put the ashes that were in the fireplace from the previous owner in the garden. But I was questioning the creosote.
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    Adios Pantalones Minister of Fire

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    Put cow manure in now, or compost it. it's generally too hot (high in nitrogen) to apply when you have plants in. Only a couple manures can you apply like that ( I have 3 house rabbits- nice pelletized fertilizer- LOL).
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    zhukpavlo New Member

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    Yes - we decided to move our garden for next year - so we need to dig up that part of the yard and then mix in the manure soon. I finished splitting the last of the wood yesterday (wife wants it cleaned up) so that's my next project (the garden). In the growing season - we mix a little manure with water and water the garden with it in the begining (not too much so we don't kill the planting - but it's good fertilizer)
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    Adios Pantalones Minister of Fire

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    Consider doing a lasagna garden. Put down cardboard or several sheets of newspaper, then cover with alternating layers of compostables and a little wood ash(leaves, manure, etc). No need to dig- the worms do the work for you. You'll have super-soil to plant in, or use soil pockets. I have done this and planted the same day. A little time to stew over the winter- even better.

    Google "lasagna garden". No need for using peat moss. Use shredded leaves instead.
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    I have tons of roots in the ground that I would rather remove. But will put some leaves/compost and let it sit over the winter. Thanks for the leaves tip.
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    Adios Pantalones Minister of Fire

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    The newspaper smothers the roots (that's what makes it so easy to start a new bed with this method!)- unless it's maybe serious tree roots, in which case you might be killing the tree by pulling them.
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    gpcollen1 Minister of Fire

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    Hey, do what you like. I'll put manure and ash but i think i'll skip the creosote.

    There is a great big difference between acute and chronic effects and glad to see you are alive and well.
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