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  1. Swedishchef Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 17, 2010
    1,454 posts
    Quebec, Canada
    HIghbeam: I thought page 5 shows residential rates....

    I got your email Louis. I will write back!

    Andrew
    #26

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  2. Highbeam Minister of Fire

    Not unless the canadian dollar is worth that much more than ours. 8.17(eh) vs. 10.0 (us)?
  3. Swedishchef Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 17, 2010
    1,454 posts
    Quebec, Canada
    At least it's at par right now 1 CAD = 0.9977 USD ;)

    And on April 2nd 2012 it was
    2012-04-02 0.9903 CAN 1.0098USD
  4. nate379 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 21, 2010
    4,006 posts
    Palmer, Alaska
    It's right about .016/Kwh here and I suspect it will be going up since natural gas just went up 0.10 a therm. Might not sound like much but winter use for average house is around 150-200 therm so that's a $15-20 increase per month.
  5. Swedishchef Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 17, 2010
    1,454 posts
    Quebec, Canada
    Every $ adds up....
  6. BoilerMan Minister of Fire

    joined: Apr 16, 2012
    983 posts
    Northern Maine
    Most rates went down because natural gas is cheap now. Thank fracking for that. $0.147 here all said and done. Down from $0.168

    TS
  7. nate379 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 21, 2010
    4,006 posts
    Palmer, Alaska
    We are running out if natural gas according to the gas company... Yet they export it to the Chinese and Japs.
    They also said coldest winter since 1982, when its been really warm so far. I'm pretty sure they don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.
  8. TheMightyMoe Feeling the Heat

    joined: Aug 2, 2012
    419 posts
    Fairbanks, Alaska.
    Over 24 cents a KW last time I checked up here. Oil for electricity, best of both worlds...
  9. Swedishchef Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 17, 2010
    1,454 posts
    Quebec, Canada
    They certainly are not giving it away up there.....wowzers!
  10. Joe Rampey New Member

    joined: Dec 29, 2012
    20 posts
    North Carolina
    Well I feel blessed... Here in North Carolina I pay 9.2 cents per kw. I have a 5 kw solar panel array that I "sell all-buy all" It puts out 6 - 800 kw per month. The co-op pays me 4.2 cents per kw... Then I get 8 cents per kw from the state as a renewable energy credit. That $70 - $100 comes in handy... Kinda hoping rates go up!!!

    Not Really!
  11. Swedishchef Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 17, 2010
    1,454 posts
    Quebec, Canada
    How much does a setup like that cost?
  12. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,118 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    We worked out a sweet deal for our 3K solar array. WA state & PSE pay $0.64/kw hr because the system is WA state made. Yesterday was sunny all day and the meter was tallying up a good run.
  13. Swedishchef Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 17, 2010
    1,454 posts
    Quebec, Canada
    What?!?!?!?!?! $3K for a solar system? That's it? What would be the average turn around time for it to pay itself off?? Crap, I wish I had less trees around my house!
  14. Fi-Q Member

    joined: Mar 5, 2009
    188 posts
    Bonaventure, Quebec
    You can do it. Hydro Quebec wiil install a 2 way meter atYOUR cost and will only credit you from your actual bill what you are backgeeding to the grid and at 7 cent kwh. And there is no incecitive for personnal solar array in Quebec, so basically, it will never pay for itself, oh, and if you want to be grid tie, it needs to be a certify installation by a hydro spprouve contractor i think !

    I want to eventually put a back up system on the house, and being grid tie will sonewhat lower the cost, but if you only looking at it financially, it is not a good investment for us, hydro quebec costumer. Me, I am thinking of it as a hobby, a sort of freedom and a peace if mind for the little survivalist hidden insude me, But again it is just a to do thing on the list for now, and as it is not making financial sense, it keeping falling at the bottom of the list !
  15. Joe Rampey New Member

    joined: Dec 29, 2012
    20 posts
    North Carolina
    3K refers to 3 kw... I spent about $24,000 for 5 kw. But, I get 30% back from Uncle Sam ($7200), 35% back from NC ($8400) and then sell the power. So I will have $8400 in the system after all tax credits. At $80 per month - about 100 months to pay off. Not a stellar investment - but, doing my part.
  16. Swedishchef Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 17, 2010
    1,454 posts
    Quebec, Canada
    Joe: that seems like a decent deal! Did you install the equipment yourself?
  17. Joe Rampey New Member

    joined: Dec 29, 2012
    20 posts
    North Carolina
    I installed the panels - Had an electrical contractor (solar specialist) do the wiring. turn key project with them doing all of the work would have been $36,000. I had a south facing roof with 6 on 12 slope - not too steep. It was a very simple install.
  18. Hansson Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jul 2, 2008
    372 posts
    Sweden,Leksand
    Over here I pay 21 cent for 1 kWh. 400 kWh in December
  19. Swedishchef Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 17, 2010
    1,454 posts
    Quebec, Canada
    Ha! That's what happens when your country builds Volvos ;) Just kidding. How does Sweden generate most of their electricity? 400KWh is not much for a month. I just received my bill for 69 days (including CHristmas) and I consumed 3900 kWh. But I made mistakes in there: I left my heater on in my garage for a week (while it was -25 C) and I also left about 4000 watts of CHristmas lights on for 10 days. Ha ha.

    ANdrew
  20. pdf27 Member

    joined: Feb 14, 2012
    102 posts
    UK
    That's almost twice my annual consumption _g
  21. Swedishchef Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 17, 2010
    1,454 posts
    Quebec, Canada
    LOL. BUt remember I live in a climate where we had -25C at night and -17 in the day for 25 days straight or so. I also heat primarily with electricity, supplemented by wood.

    How the heck can your annual consumption be 2000 kWh?!?!
  22. nate379 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 21, 2010
    4,006 posts
    Palmer, Alaska
    My folks live in Northern Maine and they have never paid that much for power.

  23. nate379 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 21, 2010
    4,006 posts
    Palmer, Alaska
    That isn't that hard to do if you are really careful about use. I generally use around 350-400KwH a month. 3900 KwH would be a ~$650 electric bill at our rates!


  24. Swedishchef Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 17, 2010
    1,454 posts
    Quebec, Canada
    That is true..I have never seen rates really go down before....
  25. Swedishchef Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 17, 2010
    1,454 posts
    Quebec, Canada
    Nate: it is no typo. But just remember that it is for 69 days. That is almost 1/5th of the year and it is during our coldest weather. Attached are 2 pictures: the first one is the average average cost per month over the past 2 years and the second one is the average consumption profile. The lighter band was last year and the darker one is this year. As I mentioned earlier, I have some of the (and perhaps THE) cheapest electricity rates in North America.





    monthly consumption $.JPG



    kWh average.JPG

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