Now, wait just a minute...
These standards are, as I read it, for new equipment. And I'm thinking many manufacturers already meet or exceed these. So exactly how is this really hurting us? In fact, I wish they had gone further and implemented the efficiency standards as well.
And please, let's keep this to a discussion of the standards and not a broader, catch-all political debate. Like many agencies and organizations I have a mixed opinion on the EPA (some great work and some not so great, IMO) but I don't see where this particular standard will hurt us.
Something to note though, most pellet stoves will meet compliance, wood stoves will be harder.
I agree.If you have a few hours I could tell you about the epa,ethanol and the automotive industry,but for now I'll let it go.It probably doesn't hurt us today. Its what happens in the future. To justify their own existence they will have to continue to introduce new regulation, kinda like the 40,000 new laws that went into affect Jan 1. Eventually hurting the industry, the economy, and the people that work in these industries.
And don't get me wrong, there needs to be regulations for everything. Its just that they usially end up doing more harm than good in the long term.
Which is why I'm posting this info. Way back when I started this business the only folks that embraced what I was doing was the industry movers and shakers. Curious what the mafia types from the HPBA are going to say at the oral testimony.
Something to note though, most pellet stoves will meet compliance, wood stoves will be harder. The double auger stoves from Englander come in at 2.4 grams I think. Box stores will have a tougher time competing. Perhaps this why HHT as gotten the Pleasant Hearth and Heatilators in to the box stores.
Not yet. I love some of these threads where people start complaining because new stoves will be more efficient. And nothing they already have is going to be affected.
I can see that coming too, though the hopper lids will be plastic and after every 5 years you'll need to buy a new one.The box stores will never have a hard time competing.
They sell Ariens and Husqvarna etc etc. The Harman's of their respective industries. I would not be surprised to see Enviro or Harman sold there one day.
Simple wording can change how the stoves are regulated, "sale,service or transfer of any unit will have to meet standards" could make all stoves come up to any new standards in time.Not yet. I love some of these threads where people start complaining because new stoves will be more efficient. And nothing they already have is going to be affected.
I can see that coming too, though the hopper lids will be plastic and after every 5 years you'll need to buy a new one.
There is an oportunity for public comment on Feb 26th, go and make yourself heard all you "Haters"
The biggest part of the rule that I'm excited about is the fact that all stoves will now have to state their efficiency. No more default 78% and hide away the real numbers. This will help some models and hurt some others but many makers hide the fact that their stoves (and we are talking about very well known brands here cause I've seen the redacted documents) are simply very inefficient. Anyone know of an insert that was recently resigned? Just sayin...
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