ESW-Summers Heat 55-SHPEP

BoerBoelAmari Posted By BoerBoelAmari, Dec 22, 2012 at 12:33 PM

  1. jrsdws

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    Compared to the siding, it does appear to be going downhill.
     
  2. BoerBoelAmari

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    Its been about 30 minutes since I restated the stove. My heat setting is at 1. I again timed the intervals between the auger stopping and starting at this setting. The interval time is roughly 6 seconds. The auger motor turns on for about .8 to 1.1 seconds. Understand also that I'm timing this by a stop watch. My reaction time isn't 100% but I got enough of the same results to determine it pretty accurate.
     
  3. Harvey Schneider

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    I may be way off base here but I am used to Englander stove modes being a, b, c, d. not 1, 2. Are you confusing heat range with mode?
    If the control board is in the wrong mode it will deliver the wrong amount of pellets.
     
  4. SmokeyTheBear

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    Different controller.
     
  5. DexterDay

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    There is no way to take off a side access plate? Or peek in through the side.

    Actually watching compared to listening will give you a more accurate time
     
  6. slvrblkk

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    ok....now settings the same.....4-4-1.......heat 1.....blower at 5........auger runs for 1 second and off for 6-7........
     
  7. BoerBoelAmari

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    The pipe is actually level. The siding is not, along with many other things in the home. I will cut out two additional feet of the horizontal piping and see how I make out there.

    I know I don't have the 1/4" per foot rise (also understand this is a temp vent set up. I'm not going to go putting holes in the house to put just a 3/4" rise in the pipe), but I don't believe this is an issue with the vent set up at this point in time. My results with an EVL over 15 and an EVL of around 6 are no different than one another.
     
  8. BoerBoelAmari

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    If I am not mistaken, to compare apples to apples you would have to change your Low Fuel Feed to 1. Or I would have to increase mine to 4.

    I removed two more feet of horizontal piping. This should put me at an EVL of around 4-5. I'm gonna bump up my heat setting and see what happens.
     
  9. BoerBoelAmari

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    Flame height at heat setting 1.
     

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  10. BoerBoelAmari

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    Slvrblkk-did you adjust your low fuel feed? Or is that how yours came? I also assume you have a 55-EP?
     
  11. slvrblkk

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    Yes...I was just giving you an idea of how my auger runs....but you are correct, you would need to change that to truly compare
     
  12. BoerBoelAmari

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    Changed heat setting to 4. Found that the auger actually actuates in the same intervals for a longer period of time. Every six seconds for two seconds. Flame height is pictured below. I had to time to auger actuation off of the load management screen of the UPS. Each time the auger engaged the % increased. With the increased fan speed I couldn't hear the auger.
     

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  13. slvrblkk

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    My stove came factory 1-4-1....but I need to run mine at 3/4-4/5-1.....depending on the pellet I use.....and yes, we have the same stove just named differently....TimberRidge/Summers Heat......etc........

    You definitely seem to have some type of air flow issue...I know it's frustrating but it will get figured out....

    Is it possible for you to post a video of the stove burning?
     
  14. BoerBoelAmari

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    Yup. I'll put one up on YouTube and link it here. Give me a few minutes.
     
  15. BoerBoelAmari

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    This is on heat setting 2. Turned it down from 4 about 10 minutes prior.

     
  16. BoerBoelAmari

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    Is there a separate fan for the OAK? Or does the combustion fan create suction?
     
  17. slvrblkk

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    WOW....that flame looks huge to me if you are on a 1-4-1 setting on heat range 2.....the flame looks lazy too by my eye.......I don't get that kind flame on my 4-4-1 on heat 4 or 5.......well, like what's been said already it's either air flow or too many pellets being dumped in or both.....did ESW have you do a board reset? Or did he just have you adjust to #2 burn setting for the stove?
     
  18. slvrblkk

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    combustion motor creates the draft......
     
  19. slvrblkk

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    Where is your OAK on the outside of the house? I can't see in on the pictures. I'm guessing it goes through the thimble to the outside?

    Have you disconnected your OAK temporarily just to see how it burn?
     
  20. BoerBoelAmari

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    The wall thimble that I have has the cutout for the OAK in it. It exits on the bottom right corner of the thimble if you are at the outside of the house looking in. I read about the gasket on the hopper lid. My lid bows up on the right side. Could this be a source of the issue?

    The model of the wall thimble is 3PVP-WTI.
     
  21. BoerBoelAmari

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    Sorry, ESW did have me do a board reset, I believe. He didnt really tell me what I was doing as we went through the troubleshooting process. A bunch of plugging in and unplugging and button selections.
     
  22. slvrblkk

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    I was just making sure it was terminated on the outside/exterior....

    How large is the gap? Could be an issue too......
     
  23. BoerBoelAmari

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    Probably 1/8th of an inch? It certainly is not sealed against that gasket. That is for sure.
     
  24. slvrblkk

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    I just checked mine.....only the one side is not tight to the gasket so I'm not sure if that would matter or not but mine is definitely not an 1/8th of an inch......I took a sheet of paper, folded it in half and did the "dollar bill" test and there was very little resistance just on the one side.....I don't have a burn issue on my stove but maybe could be part of yours.....
     
  25. BoerBoelAmari

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    Beats me. It is frustrating though. I dont really expect to have to run a million tests on a brand new stove. Its somewhat discouraging.
     

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