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Grass Pellets on CL. Gasification video too.

Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by imacman, Jan 14, 2010.

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  1. imacman

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    Just saw this the other day on CL, and gave the guy a call...he's about 1 hour from me. He makes 100% grass pellets (not switchgrass), and also 95/5 % grass/wood pellets.

    Spoke to jtakeman about this, since we both have multi-fuel units, and we're going to try a few bags. There's a distributor about 20 miles from jay.

    For you people interested in "gasification", there's an interesting video in the "links" section of his website ("burning smoke") where he uses a homemade burner.

    Just thought I'd share with the forum.

    http://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/for/1549813439.html

    www.goldenbiomassfuels.com/

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  2. jtakeman

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    I have contacted the local dealer and I will be getting 2 bags for the Omega to consume! I also contacted the gentlemen macman mentioned. Very nice chap. He is willing to work with his buyers. He can ship a grass only pellet or a combo of wood and grass.

    I plan on doing some type of a review for the interested parties.

    Maybe we can get franks to burn some in his Europa too? franks you out there?

    Just maybe the Eagle has landed for us multi fuel stove owners? I certainly hope so.

    Thanks for the tip macman! I think you made a great find here! Also Thanks for sharing with me. I will get them and burn them as soon as I finish the pellet review.

    Jay
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    WOW, those pellets are LONG! :bug: Mac and Jay, please give a full report!
  4. jtakeman

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    Looks like I will have to wait for Dirk to ship Mike the shorter pellets. The guy near me(Mike) only has the LONG ones! I ran some furnace grade pellets last year thet were real long. But maybe its best to no over work the auger. Its my main source of heat and no spares handy.

    Oh well no luck lately. But no rush. I have plenty of pellets to sample. I haven't got to the Cherry pits yet either. This getting to be like a job.
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    schoondog Feeling the Heat

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    Macman,
    I just e mailed the company and am looking to get a few bags to try. If these guys are close to Pawling I am half way between the two of you. Let me know if I can help with logistics. I work on your side of the river and live 20 mins. from Pawling. Waiting to see what these guys have. Pretty cool. My multi fuel can't wait for a chance to burn something different.

    Schoondog
  6. imacman

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    Thanks Schoon. The owner (DJ) is going to give me a call when he's coming down to my area....not sure when, though (I'm not in a big hurry). If you decide to go get some in the very near future, give me a shout......maybe it would be easier that way.
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    Got email from DJ. He is only 5 mins. from me. Going to talk to him today. Will let you know what transpires.

    Schoondog
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    Schoondog,

    Keep us posted. DJ seems like the type that will work with you. In my chatting he even said he can increase the wood amout to higher levels if need be. But I want to try the straight grass first. Then the grass/wood mix.

    Very hard to believe there are only 3 people interested in this so far. Were are all the multifuel owners?

    jay
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    All eyes are on you guys. You are our heroes.
  10. smoke show

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    over here in the land of cheap pellets and even cheaper corn.
    still lurking in interest.
  11. jtakeman

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    Just your average tinker'r. Not a hero by any means. And you sir are one of the fellows I highly respect here.

    Maybe with enough interset DJ will come hang out with us here? Very intelligent person and has tons more experience at this. I think we could learn something.
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    Jtake and Macman,
    I am going there tomorrow morning to get a few bags of the wood/grass mix. Macman I will then be going to the shop in Milton. Let me know if you want something. DJ said he has a mix pellet that is 1/4-1/2" length and he will custom bag what I want. Jay, if you want just grass PM me and let me know if I can help.

    Schoon
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    We are waiting patiently for your review :cheese: . I have not heard of anyone doing this up my way yet, otherwise I would be all over trying this too. Did he give you guys any idea of how many BTU's these are rated for? Just curious how they compare to wood pellets.
  14. jtakeman

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    Good question. I just sent an email asking what the approx BTU's are. I will post asap for you.

    This is actually more interesting to me than the pellet review. I suppose I can sneak in a 2 bag grass burn. But I don't think I can get the all grass pellet just yet(Not that kind of grass! :lol:). But I might have to wait until the warmer season. If the BTU's are low and my basement install working against me. If the house gets cold! I am in the doggy house for good. Wife doesn't like to be cold!
  15. imacman

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    :eek:hh: WOW....this is a LOT of pressure!
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    Here's DJ's reply.

    Jay : I just ran off a half ton of pure Timothy grass cut last summer and field retted for 60 days pellets are cut down 3/4 inch max I haven't checked density probably 35-37 lb/ft3 . btus are most likely about 8000/lb My golden rod blend pellets are a lot denser and have more btus. If you want btus I make a char pellet (green coal) that burns at at 12000 btus. Any way get in touch with me and we can figure out how to get you some pellets. Thanks for your interest. DJ

    Looks promising!
    jay
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    I found this site that has quite a bit of info on burning grass (wow, that sounds like it could be MUCH more interesting than what we are discussing!)

    http://www.grassbioenergy.org/
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    Well, we certainly want to encourage you guys. I think most of us realize how much effort and time it takes to test and compile results , not to mention the extra costs involved.
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    I am curious as to the moisture content %
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    Not to rain on your parade.

    Please remember that your stove needs to be rated for a fuel before you should burn it. No matter what it is that stove needs UL certification in it. Just because it is a Bio-fuel stove does not mean the stove or chimney can handle it.

    I am not your insurance agent or State Fire Marshal but they have been know to take samples of the ash pan if there is a house fire or something bad happens.


    Red means "Danger Will Robinson!".

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  21. jtakeman

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    Stove rated for this biofuel=Grass√

    Stove pipe rated for this biofuel=Grass√

    House insurance has biofuel/Biomass stove in clause√

    Not having to deal with fluctuating wood pellet prices=PRICELESS

    GREEN MEANS GO BABY
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    Cripes, You mean we`ll have to stop mixing used motor oil with pellets or suffer the consequences of the fire marshall and insurance co? What will pook think?
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    I thinx pook would dig this here grass thread. In more ways than one! :lol:
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    And if you need a gasifier fireplace for your deck, these are pretty cool units. Can't wait for the maple sap to start flowing this year! As far as 'agri' pellets go, my only comment is that it fun to do as long as you are prepared for alot of ash, your warranty is over, and you be safe. I've dumpster dived for dog food before outside a local plant, mostly corn but alot of oil too!

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    I smell "Weed"!
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