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Honda Generator with Harman P68

Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by Taylor Mahaffey, Nov 3, 2013.

  1. Taylor Mahaffey

    Taylor Mahaffey New Member

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    I am considering getting a Honda EU2000i Generator. I have read many specifications for this generator, and nowhere to be found is the words (PURE SINE WAVE) It simply states it is an "Inverter Generator". Does anyone on this forum have any experience with a (fairly modern) Harman Stove and the Honda Generator? Don't want to burn out any computer boards….

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  2. gfreek

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  3. MikeNH

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    I have a Yamaha EF2000iS which is very similar. I run the P61a through a Cyberpower UPS then into the Yamaha when we have an outage. No issues. I would think the Honda would be just fine as well as that generator puts out clean power.
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    Woody1911a1 Feeling the Heat

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    you're good to go :)
  5. Taylor Mahaffey

    Taylor Mahaffey New Member

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    Do you think I would need to run a UPS as well as the honda?
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    Woody1911a1 Feeling the Heat

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    only if you feel the need to keep the fire running while you hook up the genny .
  7. richkorn

    richkorn Minister of Fire

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    It is an inverter. Produces DC and transforms to smooth AC sign wave output. Ran mine yesterday for 1/2 hour & monitored with kill-a-watt meter. Freq is 59.9 - 60.0 Hz constant. Doesn't get much purer.
  8. Taylor Mahaffey

    Taylor Mahaffey New Member

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    Excellent. Thanks for the input.
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    I got the UPS because my stove is vented straight out the wall horizontally. The UPS keeps it running for the time it takes me to either shut the stove down or fire up the generator. With that stove, if the power goes out, there's no draft to send the exhaust out the pipe.
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    a ups is great. It gives you time to get things in motion. And, it allows you to unplug and re-plug in elsewhere (genny) without the stove even noticing.
  11. moey

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    I have high doubts a consumer UPS is going to "condition" your power in any way beneficial if your generator is acting up. It will allow you to avoid smoke in your house if your home and the electricity goes out or give you time to start up your generator. I finally gave in and bought a inverter generator last week ( the champion one ) sense we cant run our geothermal system with a generator I figured I better have a sound backup plan. I have a 120v transfer switch so I plan on shutting all the circuits off except the pellet stove one and the refrigerator one and let it hum away running those two items.
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    The idea of the ups is NOT to condition generator power at all.
    I believe the range is <80 140> volts is when the AVR on my cyberpower goes to battery. So it takes a pretty big spike/sag to kick it over. It won't clean up dirty modified generator power. In fact, the ups might not even charge/work on it.
    An invertor genny is still the answer for anything longer term.

    When it IS on battery though, it IS pure sine invertor like power.

    There are power conditioners out there for musicians that are pretty cheap. I've pondered getting one. I have music gear as well so if it doesn't work on the stove, I could always bring it to the club when I play out.
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    My honda runs my stove just fine
  14. Lousyweather

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    heck, I don't care how good the generator is.....please use a UPS regardless
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    care to explain why ?
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    We just got two of these generators at work. They are amazing we had the 1000 watt one but I needed something bigger. I have ran huge phone systems for buildings on these generators and monitored the voltage on the Server UPS. It looked great and we ran it for hours and hours

    It will run a pellet stove no problem
  17. Lousyweather

    Lousyweather Guest

    just because
  18. moey

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    A consumer grade UPS will do nothing for you except allow you to shut the stove down cleanly. But thats a huge IF because you have to be home.
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    Because if your genny runs out of gas or there is any other issue the UPS with go to battery power instantly saving you from damaging your stove.....

    Generators running out of gas tend to spike
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    and your high quality surge protector won't do that ?
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    Surge protectors normally don't do anything until at least 360 volts(I don't remember exactly but around there) it is also my understanding that they work by diverting the surge to ground and most people don't ground their generators rendering them useless on generators that are not grounded....this is how they were explained to work to me .....I am not an electrician

    They also wont keep your stove running while you fill the genny :)
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    I believe he is thinking about the more expensive to purchase/operate (but better) UPS's that are running through the battery all the time. It is constantly rectifying inlet power to charge the battery, then inverting to clean outlet power. If the power goes out, you are still running off the battery with not even a bump.

    But, most homeowners have a switching UPS that runs off the inlet power and the battery of the UPS is charged in parallel. If the UPS senses a voltage drop or big spike it will shift to the battery back up. There is no advantage of cleaning up the generator's power with a standard homeowner UPS like the industrial ones do.

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