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  1. Ed P

    Ed P New Member

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    A question for those of you who have had an igniter go bad.. Did it quit all at once or do they die slowly? The reason I'm asking is because it seems to take some time for my stove to fire up. Thanks.

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  2. subsailor

    subsailor Minister of Fire

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    Is your burn pot clean when you try to start it? If so, your stove will feed and feed for quite a while then pause. It should be lit before it starts to feed again. I timed my P-61 recently and it took 4.5 minutes to ignition. You can help it by putting a handful or 2 of pellets in the burn pot, especially after cleaning.
  3. 2011 GT/CS

    2011 GT/CS New Member

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    It could be dirty. Have you taken the cover off below the front of the burn pot to vacuum it.
  4. subsailor

    subsailor Minister of Fire

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    Good point. I vacuum under mine every week in mid-winter.
  5. Bioburner

    Bioburner Minister of Fire

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    Going back to the moto, clean stove is a happy stove. How long have you had the stove and how good have you cleaned it. First starts of fall bring up a lot of "should have cleaned it better last spring":)
  6. Harman Lover 007

    Harman Lover 007 Minister of Fire

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    Age of stove is?
  7. Ed P

    Ed P New Member

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    I bought the stove this summer. It is stamped 2005. The guy I bought it off of said he bought it new and used it one winter and it sat in his basement for a year and a half. It was pretty clean when I got it but after reading this forum I tore it completely apart, cleaned it and gave it a new paint job. I just took the access plate off the bottom of the burn pot to check it and it looks fine in there. The stove works fine. I was just wondering if they die slowly I would probably get a new one as a spare to keep on the side. On another note... do you think it was manufactured in 2005 and sat a few years before it was sold?? Thanks!
  8. subsailor

    subsailor Minister of Fire

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    Maybe??? But Harman couldn't produce enough stove in I believe 2008, so I doubt it sat any longer than that. Did he say when he bought it new?
  9. Ed P

    Ed P New Member

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    No, he didn't. I guess it really doesn't matter. The stove was in excellent condition except for a few spots of surface rust.
  10. imacman

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    I had the original ignitor in my 10-CPM go "half bad".....it only got hot on 1/2 of it's length. It still started the stove, but it took a LONG time (10 min.). So, yes, they do give up slowly sometimes.
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  11. Delta-T

    Delta-T Minister of Fire

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    the igniters don't tend to die slowly on the Harmans. They work, get covered with ash, and then burn themselves out when they can't dissipate the heat they produce. I strongly recommend cleaning the actual igniter with a smallish paintbrush occasionally (not just the loose ash in the cavity). I know peeps with the same ingniter for 10 years...I know peeps who buy a new one every year. The ones who do "preventative" cleaning last long time...those who clean it after it doesn't light tend to be buying them.
  12. DuelburnJake

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    I don't know about Harmans but on my Winslow PS40 mine died a slow death. It started taking longer and longer to ignite. When I tested it it was only getting red half way down the ignitor, while the whole element gets red on my new one. I try to keep my stove meticulously clean and my ignitor tube is easily accessible with the burn pot out and from the back.
  13. Lousyweather

    Lousyweather Guest

    Harmans tend to die all at once.....if its slower, taking longer, its usually a cleaning issue.....Ive never seen one where there was an intermittent igniter, or one weakening, but have seen plenty failed!
  14. Ed P

    Ed P New Member

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    Thanks for all the responses. It does what it is supposed to do..... light a fire, so I guess when it stops doing that I'll buy a new one. Thanks everyone!
  15. Bioburner

    Bioburner Minister of Fire

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    Once you get into the heavy of the burning season a manual start is good for weeks anyway as our Harmans don't need much maintenance.
  16. Augmister

    Augmister Minister of Fire

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    This is a great question. Just replaced mine for the first time on my house Quad that went into service in Dec 2005. Yes, a sloooowwww death and yes, I cleaned the ash out of the holder where the igniter lived regularly. I would take almost 10 minutes from a cold stove to flame in the pot. Now, barely 2 minutes? Will time it as that is a good data point to have going forward.
  17. stellep

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    Mine died slowly. Then completely. But I don't have your stove.
  18. kinsmanstoves

    kinsmanstoves Minister of Fire

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    Not sure which board you have but if it has dip switches you can adjust the initial charge. If all that sounds "greek" to you, do not mess with it.

    Eric
  19. hockeyfan

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    I had an issue with my P61A where the ignitor wasn't in the cradle that supports it correctly, and it took longer than usual for the stove to light. Adjusting the ignitor in the cradle fixed the problem.

    Usually what I have heard and experienced is that the ignitor is an 'all or nothing' device. However, with the experience above, it may be working fine but not getting the heating element in the right place for proper ignition. So (1) if your stove is clean and (2) the actual ignitor checks out as functional, make sure it is seated correctly.
  20. Lousyweather

    Lousyweather Guest

    Harman and Quad are not the same.....
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  21. Ed P

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    It doesn't sound greek but... I don't think my board has them (unless they are on the back of the board)
  22. kinsmanstoves

    kinsmanstoves Minister of Fire

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    They are on the outside of the board but have a sticker blocking them from view. Do not mess with them if you do not know what they do.

    Eric
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  23. Lousyweather

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    hey, no one EVER admits to messing with them, buy if I show up and have to reset them and then the stove seems to work ok, I am still gonna charge you for a service call
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  24. Bioburner

    Bioburner Minister of Fire

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    picture of the dip switches DSCN0157.JPG on a pc45

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