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longest non-cat burning stove

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by corey148, Dec 1, 2012.

  1. corey148

    corey148 New Member

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    What is the longest non-cat burning stove on the market today that you can buy?? I currently own a Wonderwood circulator wood stove which does not do bad, but I am only getting around 4-5 hours of burn time. I would like to find a wood stove that can get somewhere around 7-8 hours at least so I don't have to get up every morning around 2-3AM to put more wood on the fire to keep it going. I know the cat stoves will burn much longer, but I don't want to worry about the maintenance and I have heard the cat stoves can have issues with creosote building up. Any input is much appreciated!!!!

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  2. HotCoals

    HotCoals Minister of Fire

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    Think big!
  3. corey21

    corey21 Minister of Fire

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    Welcome.

    What is the size of your house and how high is your chimney?

    Most non cat stoves can go about 10 hours not the small one.
  4. Sprinter

    Sprinter Minister of Fire

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    And what kind of wood are you going to burn and how large is the house and what is the climate like? Good, dense wood like oak should last 7-8 hours with most any high efficiency stove 2 cf or larger with coals left. But the larger the better within reason depending on your needs.

    Why do you exclude cat's?
  5. raybonz

    raybonz Minister of Fire

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    I get easy 8 hr. burns with the T-5 and can get 10+ hrs. on a full load. The Super 27 should be able to do this as well...

    Ray
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  6. Sprinter

    Sprinter Minister of Fire

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    Glad to hear that. So far I haven't even tried for an overnighter because it's been so warm the house hasn't gotten below 64 at night anyway. A lot of people wonder what they can reasonably expect from this series. What kind of wood are you burning? For the next few years, all I have is alder and a little fir, so I'm not going to count on lengthy burns here anyway.
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    fossil Accidental Moderator Staff Member

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    Where do you live, what are you heating, and what are you burning?
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    etiger2007 Minister of Fire

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    Check out the Osburn 2400 its a monster
  9. HeatsTwice

    HeatsTwice Minister of Fire

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    I have been very satisfied with the Napoleon 1900. I heat a 3200 square foot house and have had 12 hour burns with full loads of oak. Not much maintainace required (replace door seal every year or two. replace baffles every two years - thats it). With the right dealer, you can also bet your warranty will cover you.

    Get the fan though. Makes a big difference in heat dispersion although radient heat alone is good enough for a house half my size without the fan.
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    etiger2007 Minister of Fire

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    What kind of baffle needs replaced after two years?
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    raybonz Minister of Fire

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    Right now I am burning ash for the most part.. Not sure how long your wood type would last..

    Ray
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    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    With good wood pretty much any 2.5 cubic foot or larger non-cat can get eight to ten hour burns or better. Well, they can if you don't listen to the advice here to run it up to the moon and make it look like a gas grill before settling it down for the night.
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    weatherguy Minister of Fire

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    Check out the Harman TL300, a couple member rave about their long burn times with the stove, I think the box is 3+ cf, so its a decent size.
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    etiger2007 Minister of Fire

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    Thats right
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    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    Pacific Energy T5, T6, Super, and Summit all have long burn times.

    But, burn times are directly related to how insulated your home is. A drafty home requires big, big heat (just look at my signature to see what I mean). If your home is drafty, you need a large stove... or more than one large stove. If your home is well insulated, the Pacific Energy stoves I listed are known for good burn times.

    Also, any free standing 3+ cu ft steel stove will give 9+ hours of heat.
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    Baffles are the horizontal peices of the stove directly above the flames which heat up and "reburn" soot that, in older stove designs, would have gone up the chimney.

    It may be longer than 2 years. I burn a lot (35 cords in 5 years - a cord a month). The newer design is much thicker. But all modern efficient stoves have baffles of some sort. And they are all considered a maintanance item. Napoleon has implemented this solution:

    http://www.hechlers.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=577

    I buy mine through Obadiah's in Montana and have forgotten the price. It may not be the same as is on that page. But check them out.
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    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    The ceramic fiber baffle boards in my 30-NC just stepped into their sixth season and they don't look like the are getting tired lately.
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    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    I bought a Hearthstone Heritage used that was made in 2005. The baffle boards had no wear or damage on them. I used the stove 24/7 for two years. The boards looked just as good the day I sold the stove as it did when I bought the stove.

    I anticipate the 30 will produce the same results.
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    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    Pokers kill baffles. Fires don't kill baffles.
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    HeatsTwice Minister of Fire

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    Very true. If you want to get around "poker damage" , on the Napoleon, you can replace the baffles with 1/2 fire brick, which I had done for 2-3 years. It won't void the warranty as that is what was origonally used by the Manufacturer (Wolf Steel) until the EPA (or someone) decided that the brick was not getting hot enough fast enough to make smokless start times. But after the stove gets hot, 1/2 fire brick baffles work fine. The baffles I've mensioned are recomended if you have neighbors who don't like smoke durring the 1/2 it takes to get the stove hot.
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    corey21 Minister of Fire

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    True i don't use my poker hardly any i do use the shovel to rake coals and empty ashes.
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    blwncrewchief Burning Hunk

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    Yep, also dumb dumbs and wives trying to stuff that last split in. That's why I have one without baffle boards.:(

    To the OP as stated above look for something close to or over 3 cu. ft. I have a hard time burning a full load in less than 8 hours. I can usually carry 10-12 hours to 300*. If you just want a steel box that heats damn well look at the Englander 30, Drolet and Osburn have a few good models. If you don't care for the steel box look than look at some of the others mentioned PE, Jotul, Harman, etc. If you get a 3 cu.ft. stove just make sure you can use the heat. I couldn't be happier with mine but it is truly as much as I would want in a 1,500 sq.ft. decently insulated house. I don't even think of a full load until it drops below 20*. Even a 1/2-3/4 load will easily carry the house overnight.
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    Pokers, and careless owners (with 120 lb Newfs) who leave them on the floor while working on the stove.
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    Wondering why you burn so much wood I thought it would be much more moderate than that in California..

    Ray

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