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Lopi AGP vs Harman p68

Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by Sniz, Sep 30, 2013.

  1. Sniz

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    I've seen that on here....certainly on the radar thanks!

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  2. Sniz

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    Just ordered 2' for $10 from my dealer along with the stove and my first ton of pellets.
  3. Sniz

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    Ordered
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    Keep us informed on how everything worked out for you

    Good Luck
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    One step closer...its in the house at least. Bar area is being fully tiled tomorrow then I can get to the install

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  6. P38X2

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    Sweeeeeet!

    Little tip for installing the door hinge retaining washers. Grab a pair of good sized channel locks, a 1/2" standard depth socket and a post-it note, or some other small piece of paper. Take the socket and hold the retaining ring on the top of it. Now take yer channel locks and put the socket and ring on the bottom jaw and hold it against the bottom of one of the pins. Take the piece of paper and put it between the top jaw and the head of the pin, so you don't scratch the paint. Squeeze. Done. It's MUCH easier done than explained.

    When you're ready to fire her up, don't forget the paint is gonna smoke...a lot. IMO, it's best to do it in one long hot burn. It's gotta get done so you might as well get it over with, otherwise you'll be smelling it again the next time you crank her up. Be prepared to listen to smoke alarms going off for an hour or so.

    Congrats and enjoy. You're gonna love the heat.
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    Just did that and scratched both hinge bolts pretty badly....no worries I have high temp matte black for TouchUp.

    Thanks again for the help
  8. P38X2

    P38X2 Minister of Fire

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    That sucks. Sorry. Maybe your channel lock teeth are very sharp/new, or you dragged them a bit? I actually used the plastic bag the hardware came in. No scratches. Should've told you to use cardboard or something. ;em
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    Installed!

    thing roars!

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    Looks great! That's prob one of the best "burning firebox" shots I've seen.

    How long were the smoke alarms going off for? Lol
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    Thanks! Didn't smoke much at all actually. They didn't even go off but it did smell.
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    Congrats! Looks great! Time to update your signature!
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    Hey all just finished up the exterior install, needed to seal up the thimble on the brick to keep water from getting in. Also painted everything outside a flat black, didnt like the shiny look.

    Question, AROUND the thimble in the wall I used great stuff Fireblock insulation to seal up the wall, obviously punching a 7" hole in your house and putting a thin aluminum thimble in there is far from efficient. Fiberglass insulation was already in the wall so i figured something to act as more of an air barrier would be a huge help.

    is there any issue with doing this? it is not touching the exhaust pipe at all, just the thimble.
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    Insulation around the thimble is OK if it's not touching the exhaust

    Where did you finally place the stove in the basement A or the breezeway B, and did you install the ThermGuard?
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    Basement A and yup installed it this morning. Super easy setup and it seems to be working. Have it set at the factory preset of 5 minutes on every 30 minutes.
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    Best of luck and congratulations!

    Welcome to the family!
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    hey all,
    how often do you find yourself cleaning your glass to keep it clean? currently mine seems to need it daily or there is a good layer of soot/black on the upper 1/2 of the glass.

    it hasn't been very cold here since I installed so it is kicking on and shutting off within 30 minutes typically so that may be the reason?
  18. P38X2

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    It's not so much the smokey start-ups as much as it is burning it on low, and pellet quality is likely the biggest factor. I burned a couple bags of NEWP, in some bizarre attempt to "save" the last few bags of my good stuff, and the top half of the glass was opaque brown within 8 hours. When my ESP was replaced, I cleaned the glass and went back to Orford softwoods, and now Spruce Pointes, and the glass stays MUCH cleaner(still burning on low 99% of the time), though it's still dirty.

    Unless you're burning a P series Harman near WOT the whole time, the glass is gonna get dirty, and even at WOT, you're just delaying the inevitable. The air wash delivery ports are a bit different on the 68 vs the 38 and I will say, the 68 gets dirtier faster than the 38, IME. The glass is much bigger(taller) on the 68, so the air wash isn't as effective, IMO, hence the different port design. It seems Harman tried to increase the velocity and keep the air a bit more laminar on the 68, in an attempt to compensate for the taller glass. Now you see why the glass is mirrored? For the longest time I thought it was some cheesy attempt to make the stove look cool.

    The dirty glass is normal, however I don't think it should be black in color. What pellets are you burning?
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    Wood pellets co. Out of summer hill,PA. Got them with the stove. Rep at the dealer had good things to say so I am trying them out.
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    GET A SURGE PROTECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Got one....its in the plug. Monster surge with $50k protection warranty.
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    Looks like you have a pretty sweet theater/man cave going on there :)
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    Thanks I enjoy it
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    Hey guys, stove is doing great, got down to 28 2 nights ago and no issues keeping the house at a toasty 74.

    Quick question, FEED RATE. Harman suggests starting at 4. Stove runs great there, its producing an ash bed around if not a bit over 1" thick at this setting. I lowered it to 3 and seems to run fine as well, ash bed is not as thick.

    What are the reasons or benefits for adjusting? I'm assuming a lower feed rate just lowers the high point fuel consumption and doesn't 'lean' out the fuel during other burn cycles.

    What should i shoot for with the feed rate? i'm doing reading on it but dont see anything conclusive.

    As an observation i put it on 3 this morning and think its used a lot less pellets today BUT the weather is a bit warmer.
  25. P38X2

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    I believe your assumption is correct regarding the feed trim affecting the high point fuel consumption. It shouldn't have any effect on saving pellets in room temp mode as the stove will burn to meet your set temp. I believe the feed trim is there to accommodate poorly burning pellets at WOT.

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