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quadrafire isle royale reassurance

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by jack_90125, Sep 13, 2013.

  1. jack_90125

    jack_90125 Member

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    well got rid of my smoke dragon tho it has served me well.got a new old royale isle and had it installed the other day. reviews and talk of here and elsewhere make it sound great. but I have my doubts as it is about half the size of the smoke dragon.which I am keeping till I see how this works out.the installer said he put a few in and some were thrilled and some were not.
    the folks here who have them seem to love them and being in iowa it is not cool enough yet to lite it up for the first time.
    so anything to be aware of,rules to live by?
    thanks for any help,clues and anything else including personal experience.
    it is going to try to heat 2200 sq ft and the dragon done it well.
    thanks

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  2. begreen

    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    Welcome Jack and congratulations. I think you will be quite impressed by this stove. It is an exceptional heater and one of the best looking on the market. I tried for a long time to figure out how to put one in our house but the clearances were too tight in our corner install. If you have good dry wood you should do fine. Give yourself some time to learn it. The stove will burn quite differently from the old stove. Moderator Jags has been burning in one for several years and should be able to help you with specific questions. In the meantime if you can post some pictures of this beauty that would be great.
  3. Tenn Dave

    Tenn Dave Feeling the Heat

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    Good dry, well seasoned wood makes all the difference in the world for stove performance.
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  4. fox9988

    fox9988 Minister of Fire

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    I had my doubts, dropped from 4.7 cuft to 1.4 cuft EPA last winter. I had no problems and marginal wood. Looking forward to this year with much dryer wood.
  5. fossil

    fossil Accidental Moderator Staff Member

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    That Isle Royale's a real nice stove. I think you're gonna like it just fine, Jack. Jags can prob'ly give you a tip or two. Rick
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    northwinds Minister of Fire

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    I suspect that the ones not thrilled with the stove didn't have dry, seasoned wood. I heat a little over 2200 square feet and am very satisfied with the stove. On really cold days
    (below zero), I sometimes burn a load in my insert so I don't have to push the Isle Royale hard.
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  7. Woody Stover

    Woody Stover Minister of Fire

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    If your house has half way decent insulation and sealing, and the floor plan lends itself to distributing the heat, and you have dry wood, the Isle Royal should easily handle that space.
  8. Johnpolk

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    I think you'll love it. I had less than perfect wood last year and it was apparent. I've had a few small fires this fall and I can already see a difference. Enjoy
  9. Trilifter7

    Trilifter7 Feeling the Heat

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    This will be my first winter with my IR but I burned it a little last spring and it really puts out some heat! It is a very easy breathing stove so you should have no problem. How tall is your flue?
  10. jack_90125

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    it all sounds good will see when the season comes.got about a 21 ft tall chimney and the old one never had a problem.
    got dry wood as been in this for a while and know the basics.
    hopefully it will be fine but one never knows for sure till you do it and just the nerves if it does not.
    thanks




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    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    If you have a good dry wood supply I think you are going to be in for a very pleasant surprise. Enjoy that beauty and the nice fire view.
  12. Trilifter7

    Trilifter7 Feeling the Heat

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    21' will be plenty. I have 15' and have had no draft issues even during this past spring shoulder season with less than ideal wood. Post some pics of the beast when you get it fired up. It has a beautiful fire view!
  13. jack_90125

    jack_90125 Member

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    here is the new setup.

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    stovelark Minister of Fire

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    Hi Jack, Nice. Beautiful stove and pix.. You'll love the IR, a formidable foe for any large cast iron stove, Nothing burns like a Quad, there's something to that... good luck.
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    Todd 2 Feeling the Heat

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    Looks nice, should be a great heater with an awesome fire view.
    I have been looking at its 2 smaller brothers the Cumberland & Yosemite, all impressive stoves.
    Looks eagerly awaiting a break-in fire.:) Enjoy
  16. Trilifter7

    Trilifter7 Feeling the Heat

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    Looks great! That looks like the same stove pipe that I put on mine. How did you attach your stove pipe to the stove? Was the diameter of your stove adapter smaller than the stove outlet?
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    Woody Stover Minister of Fire

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    Lookin' good! :cool:

    I think they usually recommend putting the flue thermo about 18" above the top of the stove, but I don't know how much difference that makes. All I can do with my setup is to lay the thermo on the tee snout about 6" behind the flue collar. :confused:
  18. jack_90125

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    had it done by a pro gave me a list I picked it up at menards its double wall pipe and it looked like it went in with no issue.

  19. Trilifter7

    Trilifter7 Feeling the Heat

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    Yep, I'm using menards double wall pipe as well. Did he glue the connector onto the stove collar? Mine had a little play at the base bc it wasn't a tight fit so I glued it in. Not sure that's the best fix but it will work for now.
  20. Jags

    Jags Moderate Moderator Staff Member

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    Welcome to the forum, Jack. You have your hands on a pretty darned capable heater. These things breath pretty easy, so you shouldn't have any draft issues. A few things to note:
    The current location of your thermo is gonna make you nervous and running for the hills is search of water. I will bet that it reads some pretty crazy numbers.
    Get a stove top thermo - place in the upper left corner of the griddle plate - aim for 650F and be ready for some heat to roll off that thing.
    Keep it below 800F.
    Search this site for "tunnel of love" starting method. You can be shutting the stove down in less than 20 minutes using this method.
    I run the primary air less than 10% open when it is cruising.
    Under NO circumstance should you use the door to the ash pan for startup air. Trust me - I verified the dangers of this.
    For start up - load that sucker full. Don't play around with small fires just to add more wood once it gets going.
    Pay attention to the startup air control. ONLY use it for the first few minutes of startup - then close it (if you don't have the ACC).
    I think you are gonna like that stove. If you have any questions, feel free to toss them out there.
    Oh - and get a stove stat for the fan if you are inclined to use it.
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  21. jack_90125

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    thanks for the info.
    what is the ACC? and the stove stat for the fan?
    first burn am just going to start small and increase from there so I can get a feel for it. do not want to start with a full load just in case.
    waiting for a damper to show up to add to it just for piece of mind.
    with the old stove had no real issues and when clean the chimney before this one went in about half of coffee can if that of soot creaosote. so tells me good wood and good burning technique. but with the new most of it will be useless.
    oh well
    thanks





  22. Jags

    Jags Moderate Moderator Staff Member

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    The ACC is on newer IR. It is the automation of closing the startup air. You push the lever in and a spring loaded timer do-dad closes it in 15 minutes. If you don't have that, then you reach over and pull the lever back out.:p

    A stove stat is a temp controlled on/off for your fan. As the stove heats up it will turn the fan on. If it cools down, it will turn it off.

    If you could burn clean with the old smoke dragon, you will be amazed at how much easier it is to burn clean in an EPA stove.
  23. Trilifter7

    Trilifter7 Feeling the Heat

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    As of spring of this year the Isle Royale is one of the few quad stoves that does not have the ACC control on it. The Cumberland gap does not have it either, not sure about the yosemite. Its just their steel stoves that have it so far.
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    Jags Moderate Moderator Staff Member

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    Hmmm...I thought they put that on the IR also? I could easily be confused.;em
  25. Trilifter7

    Trilifter7 Feeling the Heat

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    I ordered mine in march and it does not have it. I was told the ACC controls have not made it over to any of there cast iron models yet.

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