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SCF 050 auger not turning

Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by Freddels, Mar 17, 2012.

  1. Freddels

    Freddels Member

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    The auger isn't turning. I can hear the motor on but the auger isn't moving. I scooped out all the pellets to get a good look at it. Not sure what's wrong with it. Anyone else ever have this problem? Not sure how to access it and hopefully I can try to turn it by hand. Not sure if there are fines that have clogged it up or not.

    Any suggestions?

    Thanks.

    Fred

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  2. smoke show

    smoke show Guest

    There is usually a set screw or some type of mechanical fastener connecting the auger to the auger motor.

    I'd look there first.
  3. DexterDay

    DexterDay Guest

    X2... If its spinning and the auger itself is not? Then the set screw is loose.

    Some systems you different ways of connecting the 2 together. My Fahrenheit uses a small love-joy system. But there is something loose.....
  4. Freddels

    Freddels Member

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    Thanks. I'll have to try to get in there. Hopefully I can see it from the side panel b/c there's only a foot behind it and I don't think my fat @*$ will fit back there.
  5. DexterDay

    DexterDay Guest

    Mine has a Love-joy lock on it. Its not a fail proof system. But it is very strong. Lovejoy2.jpg
  6. DexterDay

    DexterDay Guest

    Yowzers thats a BIG Pic........ I may like posting pics even more now... ;)
  7. smoke show

    smoke show Guest

    How bout sum better pics? :p
  8. DexterDay

    DexterDay Guest

    The space allowed to take that pic..... Will not allow it.

    The 8MP camera on this phone is a joke.

    As Freddels said. Not much room in there and the access panels are not very big...
  9. smoke show

    smoke show Guest

    Yep that one went soaring over ur head. I thot u knew i was a perv. :p
  10. DexterDay

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    Wow... way over my head... I am a little slow though. Thought you knew?
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  11. MilkandPie4u

    MilkandPie4u New Member

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    To access the auger motor you will have to remove the rear panel. My SCF 50 does not have a Lovejoy connector, instead it has a set screw.
  12. Mike_CT

    Mike_CT New Member

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    Hi guys!

    This is my first post and I hope I'm in the right place...

    I bought SCF 050 about 7-8 weeks ago and started working on installation and duct work. I was able to complete this project last Saturday. It's been running just fine for 3 days up until last night. I noticed a temperature dropping in the house to the point where it was not acceptable so I took a look at the furnace and notice the fire was out. At first I though an air dumper may need re-adjustments due to radical temperature drop outside but when re-lid the furnace, the fire was burning just fine (getting enough air from outside), but it wasn't getting any additional fuel from the hopper. I kept pressing an auger button but all I could hear was some sort of a click (just like a starter in the car). I could not hear any movement/rotation of an auger. I took a look at the operating manual and they said I may need to replace a fuse. I detached rear/back cover to see exactly how that fuse looks like and found some sort of a spill (pic attached). Can you guys advise?

    -mike

    SCF_050_MikeN.jpg
  13. Rubicon 327

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    First off Welcome!!!:)

    It sounds like an auger motor feed issue.

    Did you check the set screw that was mentioned in the above post #3 By Dexter Day? Your auger feed motor which is what those red wires go to (I believe) is right where you want to start looking. At the end of the shaft of said motor I believe is a set screw that would hold the auger (piece that spins and feeds the pellets) tight. If that set screw has loosened then the motor is just spinning and not turning the auger it's self.

    You would probably get a better response if you started a whole new thread rather than post here as it doesn't really get the attention here as a new post from a new member would garner.

    I am perplexed as to where you are getting that wet look from below the motor area there. Is your fresh air hook up possibly allowing rain water from outside to be drawn in?

    Hopefully Dexter Day will chime in as he has the same pellet unit as you do. But there are others as well who can help better than I.
  14. MichPellet

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    Just had the same thing happen to me tonight (without the wet spill) did you figure it out?

    Anyone have a pic to how to check the set screw?
  15. Lake Girl

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    Welcome to the forum!
    Try starting a new thread with the stove manufacturer/model and problem in the title. You can reference the old thread in the message due to pics but will get more attention if it is a new posting...

    Smoke show and Dexter Day appear to have left the forum ... lost lots of knowledge with them:( Hopefully someone will chime in...
  16. Mike_CT

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    @Rubicon 327, sorry, missed your update and thanks for suggestions!

    - Set screw was in place just fine. The above problem was with the motor missing oil/ grease so it simply burned out. What I did was I immediately reached out to the place where I got the furnace from and had them order a replacement part. Since they said the part was on back order or something like that I had to wait like 2-3 weeks so I took a look at the back of the manual and found a part number for an auger motor and ordered one online. It came in within like 2-3 days and I swapped them out, obviously after taking an auger out and making sure everything else there looks OK. The new motor has been running for few months just fine but recently it just started to make some weird noises when spinning and turning the auger so I replaced it with the original one I eventually gotten replaced from the manufacture.

    What's funny is the fact I've been running on a OEM one for like 2 weeks and guess what.... I see another spill... what a bummer. I got to take more pictures and get back on the warranty claim again.

    @MichPellet

    As I just mentioned above, I immediately reached out with warranty replacement claim and ordered an extra one on my own -googled some store so I ended up with 1 broken one (they didnt want it back) and 2 good ones (1 actively working and 1 spare). My advise - take the motor our and physically (using your hand) try to turn the auger few times around to see and make sure it does not get stuck anywhere along the way.

    Unfortunately, I do not have any chance to take a pic now but if you look at my pic above, set screw is just above that auger motor. It looks like a 'silver ring' holding or tightening motor with an auger. If you do not see a 'hole' (a screw) on the ring, move your hand around that thing until you find it.
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