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  2. BrotherBart

    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    TTY originally with APRANET and also the RJE station we used with the IBM 370/158. We were big time there. One of the first places in the Southwest with disk drives on the mainframe and DOS/VS. Around 1975-1976. We were thrilled when we upgraded main memory to 16K. We could run payroll and accounts payable at one time. Our fastest comm link was the lady who carried the decks of punched cards from the keypunch area to the computer room. Guess you could call it JackieNet.

    So yeah, hearth.com looks mighty fast to me. ;lol
  3. St_Earl

    St_Earl Minister of Fire

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    the problems i (and others) were/(are?) having (are?)/were real.

    at least now for myself, i can report the site is working properly.
    no hesitation getting into threads like since the changeover.

    and i know it wasn't my computer or connection because i haven't had any problems on any other site.

    but yeah. i'm no longer having the same slowness i was getting here before.

    as always, thank you for this terrific site. :)
  4. SmokeyTheBear

    SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

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    So what did you do there?

    I was known to play with what this actually produced instead of what the vendor had originally provided.


    * $$ JOB JNM=GENSUP3,USER='BEAR',CLASS=0,DISP=D
    * $$ LST LST=00E,FNO=0001,CLASS=S,DISP=D
    * $$ PUN PUN=00D,FNO=CARD,CLASS=S,DISP=D
    // JOB GENSUP3
    // ASSGN SYSLST,X'00E'
    // ASSGN SYS001,SYSRES,SHR
    // ASSGN SYS002,SYSRES,SHR
    // ASSGN SYS003,SYSRES,SHR
    // ASSGN SYSLNK,SYSRES,SHR
    // OPTION CATAL
    // EXEC PGM=ASSEMBLY
    TITLE 'DOS/VS SUPERVISOR F,SYSRES=3350,MOD=138,NPARTS=5' 00420034
    SUPVR X00500033
    ID=F, X00550033
    ERRLOG=RDE, X00650033
    NPARTS=5, X00750033
    PAGEIN=12, X00800033
    PHO=YES, REQUIRED FOR POWER/VS X00850033
    POWER=YES, 'P O W E R / V S' X00900033
    TP=NO 01000033
    CONFG X01050033
    MODEL=138,FP=YES 01070034
    STDJC X01150033
    ACANCEL=NO, X01200033
    DECK=NO, X01250033
    DUMP=NO, X01300033
    LINES=60, X01350033
    SPARM=YES, X01400033
    XREF=NO 01450033
    FOPT X01500033
    AB=YES, X01550033
    CBF=NO, X01600033
    DASDFP=(2,2), (TO ALLOW SYSRES ON CHANNELS 1-4) X01650033
    DOC=3277, X01670034
    ECPREAL=YES, REQUIRED FOR POWER/VS X01750033
    ERRQ=10, X01800033
    EVA=(10,10), X01850033
    GETVIS=YES, X01900033
    IDRA=YES, X01950033
    IT=YES, X02000033
    OC=YES, X02050033
    OLTEP=NO, X02100033
    PC=YES, X02150033
    PCIL=YES, X02200033
    PD=NO, X02250033
    PFIX=YES, REQUIRED FOR POWER/VS X02300033
    PSLD=12, X02350033
    RELLDR=YES, REQUIRED FOR POWER/VS X02400033
    SKSEP=YES, X02450033
    SLD=12, X02500033
    SYSFIL=YES, X02550033
    TOD=YES, X02600033
    VSAM=YES, X02650033
    WAITM=NO, X02700033
    FASTTR=YES, X02750033
    XECB=24,JA=(25,25,25,25,25), X02800033
    ZONE=NO 02850033
    PIOCS X02900033
    BLKMPX=YES, X02950033
    BMPX=YES, X03000033
    DISK=3350, X03020034
    TAPE=7 03100033
    VSTAB X03150033
    RSIZE=2024K, X03200033
    VSIZE=4572K, X03250033
    BUFSIZE=85, X03300033
    SVA=(800K,120K) 03350033
    ALLOC X03400033
    F1=172K, POWER/VS (RJE) X03450033
    F2=900K, X03500033
    F3=900K, X03500033
    F4=900K 03500033
    ALLOCR X03550033
    BGR=32K, X03600033
    F4R=30K, X03650033
    F3R=30K, X03650033
    F2R=30K, X03650033
    F1R=22K 03700033
    IOTAB X03750033
    BGPGR=25, X03800033
    CHANQ=50, X
    D3350=16, X03870034
    D3420=16, X04100033
    F1PGR=10, X04150033
    F2PGR=25, X04200033
    F3PGR=25, X04200033
    F4PGR=25, X04200033
    IODEV=40, X04250033
    JIB=255, X04300033
    NRES=10 REQUIRED FOR VSAM II 04350033

    Chunk missing


    ASSGN SYSLOG,X'01F' 05700033
    ASSGN SYSREC,X'240' 05750033
    ASSGN SYSCAT,X'240' VSAM MASTER CATALOG 05800033
    DPD X06300033
    UNIT=X'240', X06350033
    VOLID=SYSRES, X06400033
    CYL=400 06420034
    SEND 06500033
    END
    /*
    // EXEC LNKEDT
    /&
    * $$ EOJ
  5. BrotherBart

    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    Groan. I swore in retirement I would never look at JCL again. So much for that! Thanks just a whole bunch. :mad:

    Night operator on the 370. If I had a buck for every time I typed "G OOE" I could have retired at 25. Or fixed somebody's busted JCL because you did not want to have to wake up a drunk programmer.
  6. SmokeyTheBear

    SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

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    I don't believe that anyone here said there weren't issues for some of the folks using the forum.

    Actually not having any problems on any other sites is not an indication of your computer or connection being fine and dandy or this forum misbehaving.

    I can over the course of a month have problems not related to any site or my computer but somewhere in the path between a site and my computer, frequently only one of the sites appears to be slow and all others appear to be fine.

    Upon closer look a piece of hardware in between goes pfft or gets blocked due to many reasons, this can happen in the weirdest of ways and sometimes it is caused by the folks that run the network operations centers in response to various events taking place.

    All it takes is for some duffus to run a DOS attack against any of the network devices between you and the site you are trying to get to. Most major hosting companies have to deal with this on an ongoing basis. The effect you generally see is vastly inconsistent response times. If you are on a Satellite system various weather events can cause issues.

    Lots of things to look at, lots of possibilities, plenty of places in between to be in the way. More than most people realize.
  7. SmokeyTheBear

    SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

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    Being drunk and on call was a firing offense at every place I worked. I also have stuff for the OS/MVS, and VM side of the ledger and can actually IPL and run a number of the old systems.
  8. BrotherBart

    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    We have jacked Craig's thread enough. We will have to do a good old days PM sometime.
  9. St_Earl

    St_Earl Minister of Fire

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    ^^^
    but that people in different regions describe the same type of problems make an individual event on my specific chain of connection seem the far less likely explanation.

    and there were a few comments that did indeed imply that these issues were to do with the user's connection or equipment.
    as well as more reasonable folks saying that indeed there seemed to be issues.

    so. just for those couple of comments that were of the "it's fine for me so your equipment is junk or you connection sucks" nature, i say that's a typical and easy reply.



    in any event, i am still pleased to relate that all is well now.
    and reiterate my thanks for this great site. :)

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