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  1. Joful Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 7, 2012
    2,626 posts
    Philadelphia
    In a year of reading here, I've not seen this addressed, so here it is:

    You load the stove full on a good coal bed, and just as it really starts roaring, you're ready to start throttling back the air. Then it happens... the glass breaks, or the door latch fails, or your air control jams wide open... something that causes you to have no control over this now-raging inferno. You have no flue damper to close. What do you do?

    I figured this might be some handy info to have in the back pocket, for future reference.
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  2. wkpoor Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 30, 2008
    1,843 posts
    Amanda, OH
    I would open the door wide open and wait a minute first. If it gets under control then just monitor till the fire dies down. If it doesn't settle down then hit it with the fire extinguisher. Other option is to smoother it with ashes from the ash can that always sits near the stove and nearly always has ashes in it.
  3. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,118 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Of the scenarios presented, only the glass breaking has shown up a few times a year. The other two are quite rare. In the glass breakage scenario, you have a couple choices. Ride it out or shut it down. If you have scrap metal around you may be able to wedge a temp patch over the breakage.Or you could let the fire burn itself out, or throw a bag of wet newspaper on the fire (ptnd pook) to kill it.
  4. etiger2007 Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 8, 2012
    1,034 posts
    Clio Michigan
    Id smother it with ashes and grab a beer to settle down some.
  5. BurnIt13 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jun 10, 2010
    334 posts
    Central MA
    Thank you for bringing this up as I havn't thought of it either. What if you didn't have any sand or ashes to smother the fire?

    Well if its just a crack in the glass or a piece fell out you could probably fashion up some aluminum foil to cover the hole if its small enough. The draft would keep it in place I imagine. Wouldn't cure it but it could help.

    Or if the whole glass is fubar....fire extinguisher.
  6. Huntindog1 Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 6, 2011
    1,043 posts
    South Central Indiana
    For just the sutffing the stove too full and getting the over heat condition of a over stuffed stove.

    I have tried the opening the door option and havent had any luck with it, as the idea is that you flush heat up the flue.

    I think the issue is that once the stove is in the mode of running away on you the coals and wood is now in good shape to burn like heck with the door open.

    When starting a stove and the stove isnt up to heat , a stove lacking proper heat and you open the door will flush what little heat you have and will prolong the building of heat in the stove so what little fire you have will have trouble with lack of heat. It will still burn but not as good.

    So if you try the open the door to stop an over fire condition and it doesnt seem to help this maybe the reason.
  7. Huntindog1 Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 6, 2011
    1,043 posts
    South Central Indiana
    Also for just the standard run away stove issues.

    I keep a roll of the metal aluminum foil Duct tape around , Good for blocking off secondary air holes in the back of the stove.

    Or stuff a wad of aluminum foil in the square tube holes bottom back of stove.

    But I have a 3/8 hole bottom front of the stove that feeds a constant amount of air to the dog house air feed front center bottom of fire box. This hole needs the aluminum tape to cover it.

    Make sure you know where all your holes are.
  8. firefighterjake Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    13,473 posts
    Unity/Bangor, Maine
    I start crying like a fat kid who just had a dog jump up and steal his ice cream cone.

    That said . . . I don't think I've ever really had a true emergency . . . good planning ahead of time often prevents an "oh crap" moment later on down the pike.

    I suppose one should probably add in the pre-requisite . . . if you feel you have a true "oh crap" moment it probably would not hurt to dial 911 and get some added help on the way.
  9. nola mike Feeling the Heat

    joined: Sep 13, 2010
    343 posts
    Richmond/Montross, Virginia
    What it somewhat more common for me is to have a log be JUUUUST a bit too long, keeping the door from closing. Usually it's at the bottom of the fresh reload, and already on fire before I realize it.
  10. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    Keeping the stove in good working order would prevent some of these things in the first place.
  11. eemarty New Member

    joined: Dec 12, 2012
    4 posts
    I've not had to do it myself, but I've heard putting in soaking wet newspaper or wet kitchen towels can get it under control.
  12. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,118 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Never force it. Remove the log, get it outside and thoroughly extinguish.
  13. Slow1 Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 26, 2008
    2,338 posts
    Eastern MA
    I recall a rather humorous recounting of someone here running through their house past their family with a blazing/smoking split to toss into a snowbank sometime in the last couple years. Not too funny to be the one with the flaming log at the time, but an image that has burned in my memory... That got me to measure the max length my stove can handle and figure out where on the tiles in front of the stove a split ends up - i.e. lay the split down and measure against the tiles when in doubt and if it crosses over the line it is too long, don't even try it if the stove is lit.

    I find it hard to imagine a realistic scenario other than perhaps the glass breaking, but my stove does have a double layer of glass so even that may not be as dramatic as it could otherwise be. Oh, I'm sure I could cause all sorts of problems but reasonable care should prevent that... then I think about my kids learning to load the stove and wonder...
  14. Waulie Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 31, 2011
    917 posts
    Nothern Lower Michigan
    My old stove had a sliding draft control in the front-opening door. Well, after getting a nice big load blazing away one evening, i tried to adjust the draft down. The entire metal plate which blocked the air holes as you slid it fell off inside the raging stove. The way the air intake worked, I now not only had no draft control, but basically double the maximum draft usually provided by the functioning control causing a total blow torch right at the base of the fire.

    I almost shat myself, but calmed down enough to think. I simply grab a small baking pan from the kitchen and placed this over the air intake. I weighted it down on the ash lip with a couple rocks and watched the stove. Actually, I ended up getting it dialed in pretty nice by sliding the pan back and forth over the air holes.

    I guess you plan for what you can by having the right safety gear. Beyond that, try to stay calm and think of a solution. If there isn't one, get help!

    Oh, that wet towel trick does work too. I used it once when I had a stovepipe (not really a chimney) fire with my old stove. Wife was not too happy about that.

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