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Why did You Buy Your Pellet Stove ?

Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by www_godzilla, Apr 16, 2009.

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  1. rowerwet

    rowerwet Minister of Fire

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    after the oil company came and cleaned the oil furnace and said "that is it no more winters out of this one", I had them give me a quote, 8k for oil, and "you will need a liner in the chimney, new valves, pump, and expansion tank, oil tank, etc." or 5k for propane system. Then the prebuy was going to be @$2,500!
    So I thought wood stove! but I don't have the room in the house for one, or the room/land for wood piles. Looked at pellet stoves until my wife said "not in the house, we don't have room", so I found outdoor pellet boilers.
    10k or so later I made it through last year on pellets (I love central heat) and have 6 tons in my drive way for this year. I wish they cost less, but each ton cost me the same or a little less than last year. last year $250/ton plus $17.50 each for the rental truck, this year $235/ton and 17.50 each for delivery (unloaded them my self last year), can't complain.
    So does this make me a pellet pig?

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  2. tinkabranc

    tinkabranc Minister of Fire

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    Got our stove during the winter of 2006-2007 to keep the basement and my office warmer
    during the day as I work from home. The forced air furnace just couldn't keep the office
    comfortable unless it ran constantly.

    My original plan was to install a wood stove in the basement, but after determining we did not
    have enough clearance to install the vent correctly, we decided to go with pellet instead.

    Other than the prices of pellets now, we could not be happier.
  3. tjnamtiw

    tjnamtiw Minister of Fire

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    First of all, I thought the moderators didn't tolerate such arguing?????? I made one post early on and got chastised severely.
    Your last point about 'hahaha, most pellet stoves won't ever run properly at such low rate...." points out your broken reasoning. You CAN easily use less than 1/2 bag a day. Doesn't your stove shut off if the temp stays above your setpoint for a period of time. Shut off means NO pellets being used so it the stove runs intermittently then you can easily use 1/2 bag a day.
  4. smoke show

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    [quote author="tjnamtiw" date="1239987981
    Your last point about 'hahaha, most pellet stoves won't ever run properly at such low rate...." points out your broken reasoning. You CAN easily use less than 1/2 bag a day. Doesn't your stove shut off if the temp stays above your setpoint for a period of time. Shut off means NO pellets being used so it the stove runs intermittently then you can easily use 1/2 bag a day.[/quote]
    agreed
  5. MainePellethead

    MainePellethead Minister of Fire

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    Well....I...like everyone else was weary to say the least on the staggering prices of oil. I had burned wood for many years before depending on oil. Pellets were much easier and cleaner choice for me. BUT....also another of my reasoning was simply a no brainer to support LOCAL at home companies here in the States. Something that the Dept. of Energy was created to do back in the 70's.....to wean us from as stated BELOW....


    Read this slowly.

    Absolutely the funniest "joke" ever......"ON US !!!"
    Let it sink in.
    Quietly we go like Sheep to slaughter.

    Does anybody out there have any memory of the reason given for the establishment of the DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY
    Anybody? Anything? No? Didn't think so.

    Bottom line . . we've spent several hundred billion dollars in support of an agency ... the reason for which not one person who reads this can remember.

    Ready??????? It was very simple... and at the time everybody thought it very appropriate...


    The Department of Energy was instituted on 8-04-1977




    TO LESSEN OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL.


    Hey, pretty efficient, huh?????


    AND NOW IT'S 2009, 32 YEARS LATER ... AND THE BUDGET FOR THIS


    NECESSARY DEPARTMENT IS AT $24.2 BILLION A YEAR


    THEY HAVE 16,000 FEDERAL EMPLOYEES AND APPROXIMATELY100,000 CONTRACT EMPLOYEES


    AND LOOK AT THE JOB THEY HAVE DONE!

    THIS IS WHERE YOU SLAP YOUR FOREHEAD AND SAY ' WHAT WAS I THINKING? '

    Ah yes, good ole bureaucracy.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Energy


    And NOW we are going to turn the Banking System & the Auto Industry over to them?




    God Help Us !!!
  6. lessoil

    lessoil Minister of Fire

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    For us it was oil at $4.50/gal last Summer and looking at paying over $2700 for oil. (08-09 heating season)
    We bought 4 tons and have just under half a ton left. Still having 22 degree mornings!
    Even after watching the price of oil fall, I still think we made the right decision.
    We now have a choice and I am warmer than with oil. (First floor)
    Second floor North bedroom hung around 64 with it -24 outside and 78 on first floor.
    Insulation work to be done this Summer/Fall which will help the second floor heat easier.
    Oil usage went from 900 gal/yr to 400. (Hot water and a very small amount of heat)
    Works out pretty close to 120 gal=1 ton of pellets
  7. imacman

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    Amen to that.
  8. countk

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    Again I say AMEN!!! God help us all!
  9. countk

    countk Feeling the Heat

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    Hey macman we both used the words G_ d and A_ _ n in our posts. Hope this doesn't cause this wonderful thread to hit the ash can!
  10. imacman

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    Yep, wouldn't doubt it.....the far left has a problem with those words, UNLESS it involves spending American $$ with those words printed all over the currency....then their OK with it.....interesting hypocrisy.
  11. countk

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    mac, I just reached into my pocket to look at some currency, but it appears someone has already been in my pockets. I wonder if it was BHO!
  12. rayboggsjr

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    Hi all,
    We bought our pellet stove about 4 weeks ago. So far we really have enjoyed the heat. We have a propane furnace that is very efficient but we still spent $1500 on propane this year with the themostat set on 70 and running electric heaters when we where home in the evenings. If we would have just ran the furnace we would have spent $2000 plus. We talked about it before we bought the stove and agreed that even if it costs us the same to heat with pellets as it did with propane the house will be warmer. It is a shame to spend that kind of money to heat your house with LP and still be cold. Here in Ohio good pellets can still be bought for $275 a ton or $5.49 per bag. I hope the pellet industry does`nt price themselves right out of being a viable source of alternative heat. Love the forum. I have learned a lot by reading your posts.
  13. tjnamtiw

    tjnamtiw Minister of Fire

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    Allah would be a safer choice........................ :eek:(
  14. tjnamtiw

    tjnamtiw Minister of Fire

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    Did he leave any CHANGE.......????
  15. flamegrabber

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    I bought mine to stick it to OPEC.

    FG.


  16. save$

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    $cost and comfort. Cashed out my vacation time. Able to pay cash for the stove and winter's worth of pellets. So with my new "space heater" I was able to heat my 2000 sq. ft in my raised ranch with pellets and about 200 gallons of oil. Was much warmer than last winter. Able to keep the house at 74-76 with no problem. Using the stove had a real learning curve, but with all the help posted on this forum, it was fun and easy to learn. I was really impressed with the leaf blower trick. Made deep cleaning really easy (and entertaining).
  17. Stentor

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    People have come up with lots of different answers and that's good for all of us. It suggests pellet stoves will be around as a a solid long term solution. They'll be a minority solution but probably enough of a niche product to support investment in the technology. Growth may also make pellet supply and pricing more rational and transparent.
  18. johnnywarm

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    To heat the wood floors.more automatic then a wood stove.
  19. MCPO

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  20. MCPO

    MCPO Minister of Fire

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    But the one thing that is hard to dispute is the fuel cost comparison calculator .
    http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/articles/fuel_cost_comparison_calculator/

    It can open your eyes .


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  21. johnnywarm

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    People have come up with lots of different answers and that's good for all of us. It suggests pellet stoves will be around as a a solid long term solution. They'll be a minority solution but probably enough of a niche product to support investment in the technology. Growth may also make pellet supply and pricing more rational and transparent.[/quote]


    Its the greed that will kill the pellet stove.they can made as much or as little(pellets) as they want,a good way to keep the prices and there profits up.
  22. mandkj

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    Thanks for that link, I never saw that before. Based on my 25 year old boiler, I'm actually saving a lot more than I thought with pellets based on BTUs.
  23. tjnamtiw

    tjnamtiw Minister of Fire

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    But the one thing that is hard to dispute is the fuel cost comparison calculator .
    http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/articles/fuel_cost_comparison_calculator/

    It can open your eyes .


    That calculator is very nice. My only question, as in most calculators, is that electricity is always portrayed as 100% efficiency. That addresses space heaters but not heat pumps, which have a higher efficiency. I have a 14.5 SEER heat pump but that is for cooling. The efficiency rating for heating is defined so nebulously that I can't figure out what the efficiency really is to plug into the calculator. Any Einsteins out there that can shed some light on this?
    Thanks!!!
  24. tjnamtiw

    tjnamtiw Minister of Fire

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    Well, I found the answer for anyone who has the same question as to how to rate their heat pump. One watt/hour of electricity at 100% efficiency yields 3.4 btu's of energy. Heat pumps in heat mode are rated using an efficiency number called a Heating Season Performance factor or HSPF that is typically about 6.5 to 9.5. These numbers are in btu/watt-hour. Therefore if you have a heat pump with an HSPF of 6.8, (2X3.4) then your electrical efficiency is 200% over the heat strips or space heaters. That would be the % that you put in the formula.
  25. tjnamtiw

    tjnamtiw Minister of Fire

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    Yep, 3400 btu's per KW-hour is 3.4 btu's per watt-hour. Divide by 1000. The ground water or geothermal heat pumps are the best as they have the highest SEER and HSPF.
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