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  1. GrahamInVa Minister of Fire

    joined: Jun 14, 2011
    508 posts
    Eastern, Virginia
    Coming from my basement Harman P61..

    Not sure what happened but the ash box was FULL of half burnt pellets.

    It was too hot to mess with this morning but anyone have any idea what could have went wrong?

    I had just scraped the burn pot Sunday evening and the ash box was about 1/4 full.

    I was burning Turman pellets.

    It was a little scary.. It wasn't enough smoke upstairs to set the smoke alarms off but there was a good amount of smoke in the basement (no smoke alarms - think i might put one down there :eek: ). It's a daytime basement that is used as a garage so i was able to open up the overhead doors and clear it out pretty fast.

    My first thought is a super clean and then see how it operates. Its a big mess now.. gooey creosote everywhere...

    This is a old picture from after I installed it.
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  2. kinsmanstoves Minister of Fire

    Sounds like the venting and stove might be clogged.
  3. Joe and Kelly Tomeno Member

    joined: Nov 13, 2012
    103 posts
    NY
    Yep just had this happen to us a few weeks ago....caused quite the fire in the box...
    completely shut my stove down......
    Check gaskets...check ash bin for bowing on front top and bottom edge....check thumb screws and plate under burn pot as well...
    good luck.
  4. CT Pellet Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 1, 2012
    645 posts
    Torrington, CT
    I'd lay some money on it not being the Turmans....But hey, I am willing to admit my bias here.;)
    Clean the pipe and all is good.
  5. thedude110 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Aug 12, 2011
    269 posts
    Central Connecticut
    Definitely sounds like an airflow issue -- clean the vent, monitor, and report back!
  6. jtakeman Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 30, 2008
    12,725 posts
    Northwestern CT.
    A Harman is supposed to be a "smartstove" as some say. It doesn't have a vacuum switch to sense a pipe clog?
  7. mepellet Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 10, 2011
    1,493 posts
    Central ME
    Look what I started..... :p
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  8. jtakeman Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 30, 2008
    12,725 posts
    Northwestern CT.
    I was gonna say it was you, But I figured I'd let the others have fun trying to find the perpatrator! ==c
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  9. mepellet Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 10, 2011
    1,493 posts
    Central ME
    Haha. Yes. It was me. :p
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  10. GrahamInVa Minister of Fire

    joined: Jun 14, 2011
    508 posts
    Eastern, Virginia
    I would agree.. airflow issue.. Going to clean it good tonight and see what happens.
  11. Mr. Spock Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jan 2, 2013
    460 posts
    SW MA
    How many tons burned after the last exhaust path cleaning?
  12. kinsmanstoves Minister of Fire

    There is a negative pressure switch.

    Eric
  13. Ben Spencer New Member

    joined: Feb 12, 2013
    1 posts
    Palmyra, PA
    Had the same thing happen to us, minus the smoke condition. My wife started the stove around 2am to take the chill off and we woke up to the pellets (Turman) all backed up and barely any fire. I completely disassembled the stove (Whitffield Quest Insert) and cleaned the stove and the SS chimney insert pipe as well. Reassembled and runs better than it has all season.
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  14. GrahamInVa Minister of Fire

    joined: Jun 14, 2011
    508 posts
    Eastern, Virginia
    The stove was installed this past August. So the vent hasn't been cleaned yet. I've burned about 1 ton through it this winter.
  15. GrahamInVa Minister of Fire

    joined: Jun 14, 2011
    508 posts
    Eastern, Virginia
    Just got done cleaning the stove. What a mess! Lots of gooey creosote. The stove seems to be running fine now. I ran it on high for awhile to burn off some of the creosote. I'm going to do another cleaning this weekend. Hopefully the creosote will harden up a bit so I can get it out the vent.

    I'll be inspecting the combustion fan area more often from now on.
  16. mikesj Member

    joined: Feb 16, 2009
    70 posts
    Western MD
    I had a similar problem a couple of years ago. I had a lot of creosote build up and had a fire in my vent. I cleaned the stove and found a bunch of ash behind the combustion fan. Since then I've tried to make sure to pull the fan out once or twice a season so that I can clean behind it.
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  17. mepellet Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 10, 2011
    1,493 posts
    Central ME
    What did you find that caused the issue?
  18. mepellet Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 10, 2011
    1,493 posts
    Central ME
    Pulling the combustion fan impeller and using a wire brush to clean it is part of my monthly cleaning. Also spray it with dry graphite from time to time.
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  19. GrahamInVa Minister of Fire

    joined: Jun 14, 2011
    508 posts
    Eastern, Virginia
    As best as I can tell it was a result of a dirty stove. ;hm (ashamed face)

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  20. SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 10, 2008
    11,440 posts
    Standish, ME
    I didn't need to see that, must wash image from retinas.

    Have you got a plan for cleaning that poor stove?
  21. Don2222 Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 1, 2010
    5,378 posts
    Salem NH
    Any pics of the creasote?

    Does it look like this oily goo? See my pics
    http://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/st-croix-auger-is-not-a-dipstick-but.105736/#post-1375622
  22. Hoot23 Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 28, 2012
    505 posts
    Alfred, Me
    Poor stove.
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  23. Don2222 Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 1, 2010
    5,378 posts
    Salem NH
    Hello

    From my recent experience, a can of Acetone at Home Depot will help alot with the cleanup!
    Acetone is used in Nail Polish Remover and does take the paint off when rubbing hard so be carful! Works good to get the creasote.
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  24. Delta-T Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 27, 2008
    2,635 posts
    NH
    what's up with that OAK (i thinks thats what it is)? Where does that go? How does that terminate? I suspect the stove is quite starved of air if you've only got 1 ton through it and you have that type of buildup. Your glass get dirty within a day or so?
  25. GrahamInVa Minister of Fire

    joined: Jun 14, 2011
    508 posts
    Eastern, Virginia
    I cleaned it last night.. didn't take any pictures of it clean though.

    The crazy thing is this all happened overnight. It was relatively clean, or so I thought, the day before..

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