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Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Focus, Dec 9, 2011.

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  1. Focus

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    Have you checked out "Lehmans" on the web? That is a store in Ohio that caters to the Amish and carries various brands of wood cook stoves and I know they're offering 20% off and free shipping for a limited time. My choice would be a stove with a water reservoir..just a thought .
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    I don't need wather reservoir. But I will see what Lehman have in offer.
    Tnx
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    I sold my antique Wesco Cookstove a month or so ago. It was great to look at, but not very practical for daily use. I've been eyeballing a couple of the models from Obadiah's. http://www.woodstoves.net/cookstoves.htm
  7. Obadiah

    Obadiah “Extinguishing Mediocrity”

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    Magnum is the model of the cookstove. Sopka is the name of the Importer we used to deal with. I believe the Magnum is manufactured by MBS in the former Yugoslavia, (Serbia today) I do not know anything about MBS as a company.
    Looks like they have a new website now which is an improvement over the old one. http://www.sopkainc.com/index.php/product Notice the contact info is the same so it is the same company as the site you posted.
    A similar stove but much higher end in terms of quality would be the LaNordica Rosa, http://www.lanordica-extraflame.com/en/woodburning-cookers/rosa_p8997 but I don't believe they are available for import into North America.
    About 10 yrs. ago I started looking at European cookstoves and had established relationships with a couple Eastern European Importers so we could offer these types of stoves. My understanding is that the Magnums were manufactured in the former Yugoslavia which most folks forget....................... Was behind the "Iron Curtain" until the "Reagan Era" when the wall came down. Early on the stoves were screaming deals at a screaming price, but no UL or EPA sticker.
    Over the years we pretty much came to the conclusion that we'd just as well stay focused on quality and we picked the best European stove line we could find that's stoves were UL listed. We choose ESSE, met the owner of ESSE and the North American Rep and the rest is now history.....at some point we may introduce the LA Nordica line as it is also a leader in the European market.
    Our feedback from the customers that purchased the Magnum and Sopka imported stoves, said once you looked inside at the details,fit and finish it was pretty obvious that the quality was not the same as many Western European Cookstoves. Most customers were happy with the stove as it was pretty, shiny and they could see the fire in the firebox, it also heated and baked fairly well if your area was small and did not require much heat to keep warm. The firebox and oven are kinda on the small side by Western Standards.
    When we were selling them, they were the least expensive stoves we offered at that time. They were never a huge seller as my customers are more concerned with the long term service and support than the short term price. The importer could also not afford to get them tested to be UL listed. This severely limited the market for us as most of customers are concerned about their insurance companies UL requirements. I believe that this has changed and now some stoves have a UL listing now, but you should check with Sopka to be sure if your in the States and need to make sure your insurance company is happy.
    Stove construction- The stoves that Sopka imports are made of a verity of parts.
    They are generally sheet metal stoves that are bolted together with cast iron components and heavy and thin gauge steel installed and firebrick in the areas where needed so they don't burn through.
    Overall I would say fit finish is good and the stove was worth the money if your looking for a stove with a glass door so you can see the fire in the firebox.
    In my humble opinion…..personally, I'd much prefer a welded heavy gauge steel uni-body construction and hang the cast iron on it where it would be best suited. The stove will heat and cool as a unit, as opposed to many separate components all expanding and contracting at different rates, causing stress's that eventually will take their toll in terms of stress cracks and air leaks. Uni-body welded steel construction is the best way to build any stove today with our current levels of technology. Just like we no longer build automobiles the same way we used to, today's vehicles are much better due to better engineering, the same holds true with Hearth products. ESSE realized this this back in the late 90s as they looked at their line of cast iron stove. They decided to stay on the cutting edge and use today's technology to build a superior product. The company invested millions of pounds in laser cutters, CNC machines and robotic welders to build a strong welded steel uniform stove body that is nearly 100% consistent in quality in every area. The engineering, fit and finish is excellent.
    That is what makes the ESSE Ironheart the true Rolls Royce of Cookstoves........it's all in the details.
    http://www.woodstoves.net/esse/woodcooker.htm
    The most important question anyone should ask that is purchasing an imported stove...."what happens if we need parts?"
    I'm not sure how many they sell; I think Sopka is now not only the importer, but the dealer as well. He is still around, so he is doing something right. http://www.sopkainc.com/index.php/product/magnum Hopefully he has worked out the replacement parts inventory issues and can now provide parts in a reasonable amount of time for folks who purchase his stoves. The stove line Sopka offers is very unique here in North America and fill a niche market, providing a reasonable product at a reasonable price for those who cant afford or justify a more expensive cookstove. But at $2695 for the Magnum, personally, I think the Kitchen Queen 480/380 at $2445/2345 respectively, http://www.woodstoves.net/cookstoves/kitchenqueen.htm or the Princess at $2250 offer a far better stove at a better price. http://www.woodstoves.net/cookstoves/pioneerprincess.htm Of course those stoves are not an option for our UK friends, but they are a viable option for those here in the US and Canada. We can get parts quickly as well.
    To see our complete line of wood/coal cookstoves visit http://www.discountstoves.net/Obadiah_s_Wood_Cookstoves_s/37.htm You should be able to find the cookstove your looking for in our large selection. If not, just ask and we'll either get it for you, or put you in touch with someone who can.
    We even have parts and chimney systems for cookstoves and will be expanding our selection of cookstove parts on our website, in the future. http://www.stove-parts.net/
    Please call us and we will spend the time to find out the details of your installation and will be happy to help you sort out fact from fiction when it comes to wood/coal cookstoves. Obadiah's currently has the largest selection of cookstoves availiable online. I have taken a few stoves and taken them apart and put them back together again and even burned them so you can see first hand what the Cookstove is constructed like, how it burns, size of the wood it takes, burn times and even how even the oven heats. http://www.youtube.com/user/WoodyChain/videos?query=cookstoves
    We are the only cookstove dealer that will list out the Pros and Cons to each product we offer.
    Why? We don't sell folks stoves, we educate them so they can make an informed decision. We offer solutions to folks looking for answers. This equates to happier customers for us, as well as lots of referrals. Those referrals have grown us to now be the largest cookstove seller in North America in terms of cookstoves sold.

    Hope this info helps somewhat.
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    Obadiah “Extinguishing Mediocrity”

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    tjnamtiw Minister of Fire

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    I don't know if you ever got a wood fired stove but I highly recommend working with Sopka. I had a very good experience. I bought a smaller stove from them but the US rep treated me like I bought his best stove and followed the shipment for me and followed up to ensure I was happy. He to this day still communicates with me. In retrospect, I wish I had gotten the Magnum although I have the stove in a small room downstairs. I've used it quite a bit this fall and winter with both wood and coal. No problems. It heats up quickly so you could cook or back on it in about 15 minutes!

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  10. begreen

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    If Esse is the Rolls Royce what is Aga? I thought they were the gold standard. The Heartland Oval is another great classic worth checking out.
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  11. charly

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    Love my Esse! Thanks to Obadiah's for coming through with a great price and service! Its right at home in our Farm house.

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    Cool beans!
    Years ago I lived in a old farm house.
    Had one of those old combination wood,coal and gas stove in the kitchen ..loved it!
    On real cold nights we would sit in the kitchen playing cards with the two kids and drink hot chocolate and have toast.
    Back then I had a old Franklin heating the rest of the house..it was all I could afford back then..but we got by because of all the apple and cherry I used to get from the fruit farm I worked on.
  13. charly

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    It's a real pleasure to have the Esse,,,I love the massive gentle heat ,,plus, you have instant heat anytime you want to bake something or even just warm up some left overs...things I never thought of until we installed the Esse.
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    Now I'm thinking about putting one in this kitchen!
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    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    Similar to the Esse is the Aga Heartland Artisan. There is also the Hearthstone Deva which we rarely hear about. If you have one of these stoves, it would be great to hear about it.

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  16. charly

    charly Guest

    You won't be sorry;)
  17. charly

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    I looked at the Deva in person at a local stove shop,, was like tin compared to the Esse.. Esse has great latch adjustments for the doors and door hinges,,, just details you want . I guess I would say it was like looking at a homeowners stove verses a commercial grade stove.
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    We bought an Aga Heartland Artisan in Nov. 2010. It was our third wood-fired cookstove and will be our last. It is a joy to own and use. I bake all our breadstuffs in it. Plus it is the only oven we have now. We have a gas grill outdoors we use some as an oven, but this stove is incomparable. Though I have no experience with Esse and the reports on them in this forum are very good.

    The Heartland is air tight and has a nice, large firebox [big relief after the half dozen other cookstoves I've used]. Easy to operate and easy to manage. Very even baking in the main oven. The warming oven does not get very hot, maybe 200 F. after several hours of burning. But it is handy for lots of uses.

    Extremely well-made and good attention to detail in the manufacturing process.
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    charly Guest

    Sounds like a great stove!!
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    Thanks for the report Steve. Since my first experience with a cook stove, I've always wanted to cook on an AGA. I'd be happy to work with an Esse too! Miss my old cookstove.
  21. Obadiah

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    Been awhile since anyone has posted here so I thought I would do a update, the Italian La Nordica line that is similar to the Serbian Magma is now available in the US, we have them and they are availaible. [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
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