I too saw the new Optimizer at the Empire Farm Show. It was a good looking unit, well built. I watched the video and it looked very impressive. I liked the fact that it contained a full refractory gasification nozzle instead of the steel chamber in the Central Boiler units. If I were looking at buying a outdoor unit and did not already own an Econoburn boiler I think I would consider the Portage & Main boiler. The one thing I did not like was the over aggressive attitude of the Portage & Main Factory Rep. My friends and I were a bit upset when the rep kept hounding us about looking at his boiler. I told him that I already have a gasification boiler and he kept pushing me to look at the Optimizer more than I had already looked. Look pal , I already own a gasification boiler, they all work basically the same way. Why would I want to look at his boiler if I already own a gasification boiler? I bet this guy offends more people than he makes sales. Other sales people in the area asked if we were interested in looking at the boiler and we told them we already had one, they let us walk past, but this guy was unrelenting.