After scouring craiglist the past week and last month, nothing of interest really Came up. Was wondering what you all thought about wood stoves offered at the typical big box stores? Preferably under 800$ also I get a 10% military discount at one so that helps!
Any stoves from big box to consider?
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brenndatomu
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https://www.hearth.com/talk/posts/1534412/
FYI, the Drolet line is good (they make Century too)
I just picked up a small Vogelzang, we'll see if that was a good decision or not...
FYI, the Drolet line is good (they make Century too)
I just picked up a small Vogelzang, we'll see if that was a good decision or not...
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Sprinter
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What size is your house and what's the climate like there?
The Englander line, NC30, 13 and 17 are all respectable for their price. I believe that Summers Heat and Timber Ridge are also Englander.
brenndatomu
Minister of Fire
Crap! I posted the wrong link, they do have a killer stove sale going on through the 19th though. I'll try to post the correct link...
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Edit:...Corrected...1700 sq ft open floor a-frame. I am wanting to add one the basement which is already piped. And climate can get bad . Northwest ohio. This may sound stupid but are freestanding stoves any good at radiant heat output? Didnt know if they were since cast iron I'm sure acts differently than plate steel? Power outage concerns
Sprinter
Minister of Fire
That's right, you have the A-frame house and have a stove upstairs. I would think that something like the Englander NC13 would be a good fit and comes as freestanding or insert. Did you get your flue situation solved?
All stoves supply radiant heat, but the different constructions will give you different levels of radiant vs convective heat. All-steel stoves (the most common) will have the highest radiant/convective ratio, then cast iron. The cast iron stoves tend to be more expensive. Feestanding stoves will generally offer more radiant heat than inserts because inserts require a blower to get the heat out. A feestanding stove radiates all around, but can also be equipped with a blower to exchange radiant for more convective, air-heating capacity. Neither is better than the others but depends on preference. You may find a blower to be helpful to get more hot air upstairs.
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Didn't know the plate steel offered high radiant output. Thanks, flue work is solved I'm going to run it straight through and flush with thimble outside of the foundation. But I do have to take out my hearth . To many bricks anyway. Probably going to re do that to give myself about 15" extra of straight vertical pipe. But trying to narrow down my selection of a stove... To many to choose and do not want to burn myself buying wrong manuf/model. But would ideally like to stay around 600$ will go as high as 800$. Also still watching craigslist like a hawk
The 30 would fit that bill.
The 13 takes smaller splits (1.5 CF firebox, if I recall, correct me if I am wrong and it's 1.3
) , has a heavy hearth requirement, but is an awesome heater !!
Sprinter
Minister of Fire
From a previous thread, the OP already has a stove upstairs that "almost" heats the house, but he wants another one in the basement for when he finishes it for living and for a little additional heat upstairs. I'd be afraid the 30 would be too much in this case. I think the 13 is 1.8 cf but cannot take the big splits. You're right about the hearth requirement. It takes an R rating of 2.0, but if the basement floor is concrete, that wouldn't be an issue.The 30 would fit that bill.
The 13 takes smaller splits (1.5 CF firebox, if I recall, correct me if I am wrong and it's 1.3
But you have a 13, right? What do you think about his situation?
I stand corrected
I'm amazed at the difference in the configuration of the 2 fireboxes. (PE to the 13). 2 totally different beasts in behavior.
My 13 sits on a slab on the lower level of an off offset split ranch. We added a slightly raised hearth (3") for looks. If the OP is looking for more heat when the need arises, from what I've read, the 13 would do the job, but must also keep in mind that the 13 is going to get 5-6 hours burn time with "primo" firewood, and maybe 7-8 hours of heat output before things start to cool down ( mileage may vary ).
I guess I should monitor how much heat lol. I do not wanted to be sweating down stairs. But the way I figure get as big as a firebox as I can. Can always build smaller fires. The reason for a large firebox would be stack it full and forget until the next morning! So the englander described above with a 1.8 cf comes In around 600$? Thanks for everyone's help so far it is appreciated
Stacking the 13 for over nights can be a challenge.
I've found the shorter splits, loaded north/south. gives a better/longer burn time. It's easier to pack that way.
More work in cutting to size, but a better pay off.
Sprinter
Minister of Fire
That seems about right, but can you stuff a 3.5 cf box full in order to get more burn time and still keep the heat output reasonable? Never had a stove that big.
My splits are usually 16-20" and some get kind of gnarly when doing some by hand. Bulk is done with a splitter but I still enjoy exploding rounds !
Really liking that eng 30 but 13 has a price of 649$ compared to the 30 at 899$
How does a vogelzang mountan stack up against these englanders?
Really liking that eng 30 but 13 has a price of 649$ compared to the 30 at 899$
How does a vogelzang mountan stack up against these englanders?
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Sprinter
Minister of Fire
Does the $649 include the blower (which mine didn't 2 years ago)
http://www.overstockstoves.com/50epacenowos.html
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Sprinter
Minister of Fire
It looks like HD has it with a blower. The HD delivered prices are kind of wierd. You need to plug in your zip code to find the delivered price, or at least you did last year. folks found that you could get the best price if you plugged in certain zip codes.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Englander-1-800-sq-ft-Wood-Burning-Stove-13-NCH/100157775#.UlddcxC1szA
Sprinter
Minister of Fire
Maybe you can just save the 20" pieces for that one. Actually, I can sometimes put in a 20" piece diagonally, but you wouldn't want to do that often.
Dix, how large a split can you do in the 13? It says 18, but maybe that could be stretched a bit?
Sprinter
Minister of Fire
We do have some members here with Vogelzang stoves. You may want to do a search on them. The Englanders far outnumber them though.
I'm happy with 13's east/west. Takes more cutting, but worth it for the heat output & burn times.
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