Bernzomatic TS4000 Trigger Start Torch

georgepds Posted By georgepds, Jul 8, 2018 at 11:33 PM

  1. georgepds

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    Bernzomatic TS4000 Trigger Start Torch

    Just got the benzozomatic ts4000 self igniting propane torch ( mine uses map gas). Had to solder a few copper parts to mount a water meter horizontally. Started the job with an old propane torch and a long lighter... what a pain. It was a windy day and the torch kept blowing out. Picked up the benzozomatic when I went to home depot for more parts, and finished the job with it. What a difference

    If you've never tried it, try it.... the flame just does not go out, and that makes all the difference in the world
     
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  2. bholler

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    Map is a huge difference for sure. I honestly solder very little now bought a new house and redid it all in pex. But i did quite a bit in the old house and wouldnt think of going back to propane
     
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    The temperature dif is not that much.. but the resistance to flame out is outstanding.. none the less people quote the higher temp dif

    "MAP-Pro gas burns at a temperature of 3,730 degrees Fahrenheit, while propane burns at 3,600 F. Because it heats copper faster and to a higher temperature, MAP-Pro gas is a superior alternative to propane for soldering."

    That said, I have to learn how to work pex... what tool do you use to make the connection?
     
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    I just use a crimping tool and rings. Not much to it other than periodically checking the adjustment. Mine has never needed changed but i check it fairly regularly. And the peak temp of map is not much higher but there is a much larger hotspot than there is with propane. Because of that it heats pipe faster and more evenly.
     
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    I recently bought and used the same torch and share your enthusiasm about it.
    WRT PEX there have been some good discussion here on it. I'd look them up. I use and like PEX a lot. In fact I bought the torch to do some connection of PEX to copper. I'm not a fan of the sharkbite concept (yet) but I'm sure they have their place.
     
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    I have ran several bottles of gas through my bernzo used almost entirely for lighting stoves! It came with mapp but I replaced it with regular lpg bottles due to my cheapness. Even better is refilling the log bottles from the bulk tank.

    I repiped my current home in pex using the copper crimp rings. Not a single leak and the pex systems allow you to rotate the fittings.
     
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    Iv been using the sharkbites at work for a few years and love em. Have not touched the torch in years
     
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    I bought my torch initially to soldier copper pipes. However, like Highbeam, I mostly use mine to start fires. The woodstove mostly, but also the charcoal grill and if I need to burn any brush.

    And my current house is about 95% PEX. I left a stub of copper on two outdoor faucets and connected them with a Sharkbite. I upsized the tubing as well; originally, everything was 1/2 inch copper, and everything was hooked in a series. I cooked my wife in the shower (downstairs) by flushing the upstairs toilet. Going to 3/4" from the pressure tank took care of that.
     
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