Bernzomatic TS4000 Trigger Start Torch

[georgepds]

Bernzomatic TS4000 Trigger Start Torch

Just got the benzozomatic ts4000 self igniting propane torch ( mine uses map gas). Had to solder a few copper parts to mount a water meter horizontally. Started the job with an old propane torch and a long lighter... what a pain. It was a windy day and the torch kept blowing out. Picked up the benzozomatic when I went to home depot for more parts, and finished the job with it. What a difference

If you've never tried it, try it.... the flame just does not go out, and that makes all the difference in the world

 

[bholler]

Bernzomatic TS4000 Trigger Start Torch

Just got the benzozomatic ts4000 self igniting propane torch ( mine uses map gas). Had to solder a few copper parts to mount a water meter horizontally. Started the job with an old propane torch and a long lighter... what a pain. It was a windy day and the torch kept blowing out. Picked up the benzozomatic when I went to home depot for more parts, and finished the job with it. What a difference

If you've never tried it, try it.... the flame just does not go out, and that makes all the difference in the world

Map is a huge difference for sure. I honestly solder very little now bought a new house and redid it all in pex. But i did quite a bit in the old house and wouldnt think of going back to propane

 

[georgepds]

Map is a huge difference for sure. I honestly solder very little now bought a new house and redid it all in pex. But i did quite a bit in the old house and wouldnt think of going back to propane

The temperature dif is not that much.. but the resistance to flame out is outstanding.. none the less people quote the higher temp dif

"MAP-Pro gas burns at a temperature of 3,730 degrees Fahrenheit, while propane burns at 3,600 F. Because it heats copper faster and to a higher temperature, MAP-Pro gas is a superior alternative to propane for soldering."

That said, I have to learn how to work pex... what tool do you use to make the connection?

 

[bholler]

The temperature dif is not that much.. but the resistance to flame out is outstanding.. none the less people quote the higher temp dif

"MAP-Pro gas burns at a temperature of 3,730 degrees Fahrenheit, while propane burns at 3,600 F. Because it heats copper faster and to a higher temperature, MAP-Pro gas is a superior alternative to propane for soldering."

That said, I have to learn how to work pex... what tool do you use to make the connection?

I just use a crimping tool and rings. Not much to it other than periodically checking the adjustment. Mine has never needed changed but i check it fairly regularly. And the peak temp of map is not much higher but there is a much larger hotspot than there is with propane. Because of that it heats pipe faster and more evenly.

 

[semipro]

I recently bought and used the same torch and share your enthusiasm about it.
WRT PEX there have been some good discussion here on it. I'd look them up. I use and like PEX a lot. In fact I bought the torch to do some connection of PEX to copper. I'm not a fan of the sharkbite concept (yet) but I'm sure they have their place.

 

[Highbeam]

I have ran several bottles of gas through my bernzo used almost entirely for lighting stoves! It came with mapp but I replaced it with regular lpg bottles due to my cheapness. Even better is refilling the log bottles from the bulk tank.

I repiped my current home in pex using the copper crimp rings. Not a single leak and the pex systems allow you to rotate the fittings.

 

[zrock]

I recently bought and used the same torch and share your enthusiasm about it.
WRT PEX there have been some good discussion here on it. I'd look them up. I use and like PEX a lot. In fact I bought the torch to do some connection of PEX to copper. I'm not a fan of the sharkbite concept (yet) but I'm sure they have their place.

Iv been using the sharkbites at work for a few years and love em. Have not touched the torch in years

 

[venator260]

I bought my torch initially to soldier copper pipes. However, like Highbeam, I mostly use mine to start fires. The woodstove mostly, but also the charcoal grill and if I need to burn any brush.

And my current house is about 95% PEX. I left a stub of copper on two outdoor faucets and connected them with a Sharkbite. I upsized the tubing as well; originally, everything was 1/2 inch copper, and everything was hooked in a series. I cooked my wife in the shower (downstairs) by flushing the upstairs toilet. Going to 3/4" from the pressure tank took care of that.