One of our Breckwell P2000i stoves (1 upstairs, 1 downstairs) has, I sure, a bad convection fan.
We run both stoves from Nov. - Mar. every year. The upstairs one has been a dud from day one. We run it on avg. ~5 hours a day, as the downstairs stove provides enough heat to get by, unless it's really cold or windy outside (large drafty old house).
In 7 hears, we've gone thru 3 control boards, a combustion blower, an auger motor, 1 hi-temp disc & 2 remote thermostats on this stove. The downstairs stove is a year older, with a slightly different design for the burn pot & fire chamber, and except for the igniter burning out after running for 59 straight hours on a portable generator during the infamous Dec. 2008 ice storm, it's never given us any problems.
We're careful not to let fines get into the hopper, and I even use the ash vac to get any strays between fills. I'm picky about the cleanings, too, inside & out - they look showroom new when I'm done w/them. I also replace the door gaskets every Fall, and we keep them unplugged & stocked w/Damp Rid all summer to prevent rusting during humid spring & summer weather.
Original dealer closed 3 years ago & local guys won't service Breckwell, so I've been doing the maintenance for both stoves on my own. I do a major, pull everything out & vacuum/brush the chassis, fan blades, vents, oil stuff, etc. after every ton. We burn 6-8 tons of New England Wood pellets each winter, maybe 3 in this stove, and the rest in the downstairs stove.
Two days ago, the convection blower on the upstairs stove quit - no slow down, no awful sounds, etc. - just stopped like someone flipped a switch. Auger motor was still going, feeding pellets, combustion motor was working fine, and no error codes on the control panel. The blower has been making plenty of noise lately when it starts up until it gets good & hot, figured the bearings were going, as it sounded just like the last time, so it wasn't a surprise.
Only 1 dealer in the area had the part - they all said they'd had several people buying replacement Breckwell motors over the last few weeks, and their stock was depleted. 1 dealer had a Fasco motor & said it was the aftermarket replacement, so I grabbed it. However, there are a few differences, so I'm not so sure it will work. I've seen other posts that mention using Fasco motors in the Breckwells, but it's a different part #. I can't find this model # anywhere on the Web, even on Fasco's site.
The aftermarket is Fasco Model #7021-11408, 115v, 1.5A, 60Hz, 3000 RPM, and 1/50 HP, Single Speed, Class "B" - no info on CFM on the part or on the box, and it has 1 green ground wire & 2 black wires w/female spade connectors. Label on the box says this is a Shaded Pole, Clockwise Rotation, Thermally Protected, Ventilation Open, Sleeve Bearning, Wheet 4 1/4" x 2". Also has two other #'s on the label - CA08 and 61224317-1, and another label that says "11408 BW Convection Fan".
The old motor is made by McMillan Industria de Motores in Mexico, Model # 8211715077, 115v, 1.26A, 60Hz, 3000 RPM, 1/40 HP, Class "B", and lists the Customer Part # as BRP A-E-033 (matching all the manuals I have, part lists on Breckwell & other sites, etc.). It has the same green ground wire, but the other wires are Red, with a covered Male spade connector, and White, w/a covered Female spade connector. Can't find any info on this motor anywhere on the Web, either. This isn't the one that came w/the stove, it's one that the dealer installed when the original died 3 years ago. Don't know if the original was also a McMillan, or what the connectors on the original looked like.
Except for a slight difference in width of the sleeve (slightly longer on the Fasco), the external appearance is identical, and the mounting plate & holes line up perfectly to the old one.
Here's what I need to know:
1 - My stove has 2 fan speeds - High & Low. The Fasco is labelled single speed - what's going to happen when the temp. rises and the stove tries to kick the Fasco into High?
2 - Any problems with the slight differences in amps & horsepower? My old dealer gave me a couple of pages from the Breckwell Dealer Digital Troubleshooting guide, and it lists the specs for the Convection Blower as 1.5 Amps, so I'm thinking that this difference might not matter - but the horsepower - I don't know.
3 - I assume the wires on the McMillan were colored differently, and had different connectors, because they shouldn't be interchanged. If I replace the connectors on the Fasco to match the ones on the McMillan, or use a Molex connector, then do I need to worry about which is which? And, if so, how do I tell, since they're both black?
Any thoughts or help would be appreciated. If I can't figure this out soon, I'll return this one & order the Breckwell OEM part, or try to find a local place to rebuild the old one, depending on the cost.
Thanks - Rebecca
We run both stoves from Nov. - Mar. every year. The upstairs one has been a dud from day one. We run it on avg. ~5 hours a day, as the downstairs stove provides enough heat to get by, unless it's really cold or windy outside (large drafty old house).
In 7 hears, we've gone thru 3 control boards, a combustion blower, an auger motor, 1 hi-temp disc & 2 remote thermostats on this stove. The downstairs stove is a year older, with a slightly different design for the burn pot & fire chamber, and except for the igniter burning out after running for 59 straight hours on a portable generator during the infamous Dec. 2008 ice storm, it's never given us any problems.
We're careful not to let fines get into the hopper, and I even use the ash vac to get any strays between fills. I'm picky about the cleanings, too, inside & out - they look showroom new when I'm done w/them. I also replace the door gaskets every Fall, and we keep them unplugged & stocked w/Damp Rid all summer to prevent rusting during humid spring & summer weather.
Original dealer closed 3 years ago & local guys won't service Breckwell, so I've been doing the maintenance for both stoves on my own. I do a major, pull everything out & vacuum/brush the chassis, fan blades, vents, oil stuff, etc. after every ton. We burn 6-8 tons of New England Wood pellets each winter, maybe 3 in this stove, and the rest in the downstairs stove.
Two days ago, the convection blower on the upstairs stove quit - no slow down, no awful sounds, etc. - just stopped like someone flipped a switch. Auger motor was still going, feeding pellets, combustion motor was working fine, and no error codes on the control panel. The blower has been making plenty of noise lately when it starts up until it gets good & hot, figured the bearings were going, as it sounded just like the last time, so it wasn't a surprise.
Only 1 dealer in the area had the part - they all said they'd had several people buying replacement Breckwell motors over the last few weeks, and their stock was depleted. 1 dealer had a Fasco motor & said it was the aftermarket replacement, so I grabbed it. However, there are a few differences, so I'm not so sure it will work. I've seen other posts that mention using Fasco motors in the Breckwells, but it's a different part #. I can't find this model # anywhere on the Web, even on Fasco's site.
The aftermarket is Fasco Model #7021-11408, 115v, 1.5A, 60Hz, 3000 RPM, and 1/50 HP, Single Speed, Class "B" - no info on CFM on the part or on the box, and it has 1 green ground wire & 2 black wires w/female spade connectors. Label on the box says this is a Shaded Pole, Clockwise Rotation, Thermally Protected, Ventilation Open, Sleeve Bearning, Wheet 4 1/4" x 2". Also has two other #'s on the label - CA08 and 61224317-1, and another label that says "11408 BW Convection Fan".
The old motor is made by McMillan Industria de Motores in Mexico, Model # 8211715077, 115v, 1.26A, 60Hz, 3000 RPM, 1/40 HP, Class "B", and lists the Customer Part # as BRP A-E-033 (matching all the manuals I have, part lists on Breckwell & other sites, etc.). It has the same green ground wire, but the other wires are Red, with a covered Male spade connector, and White, w/a covered Female spade connector. Can't find any info on this motor anywhere on the Web, either. This isn't the one that came w/the stove, it's one that the dealer installed when the original died 3 years ago. Don't know if the original was also a McMillan, or what the connectors on the original looked like.
Except for a slight difference in width of the sleeve (slightly longer on the Fasco), the external appearance is identical, and the mounting plate & holes line up perfectly to the old one.
Here's what I need to know:
1 - My stove has 2 fan speeds - High & Low. The Fasco is labelled single speed - what's going to happen when the temp. rises and the stove tries to kick the Fasco into High?
2 - Any problems with the slight differences in amps & horsepower? My old dealer gave me a couple of pages from the Breckwell Dealer Digital Troubleshooting guide, and it lists the specs for the Convection Blower as 1.5 Amps, so I'm thinking that this difference might not matter - but the horsepower - I don't know.
3 - I assume the wires on the McMillan were colored differently, and had different connectors, because they shouldn't be interchanged. If I replace the connectors on the Fasco to match the ones on the McMillan, or use a Molex connector, then do I need to worry about which is which? And, if so, how do I tell, since they're both black?
Any thoughts or help would be appreciated. If I can't figure this out soon, I'll return this one & order the Breckwell OEM part, or try to find a local place to rebuild the old one, depending on the cost.
Thanks - Rebecca