Buck 91 for new home, Advice?

[spohlman]

I've been lurking here for a few weeks and know I'll get some good answers from this group!

I'm building a new home in the next few months and will be installing a free standing stove. I have been checking out several on the web and doing some reading up here as well. I have considered Lopi, Jotul, PE, VC and Country Flame. Was thinking I needed a non-cat. However, my local dealer in this little west Texas town carries Buck Stoves. He did a good sales job on me today and am needing advise from those with experience with this brand and anyone who could compare it to the rest.

He is pricing me a model 91 (Cat.) new for around $2600 (no instalation or pipes). Also, a deal I'm more interested in is on one of the three 91's which he burns in his shop that he sells each spring and replaces each with new demos. Asking around $1900 for one of those.
Are these competative prices respectively for new and used?

Next for those that might persuade me in another direction here's a little about the new home.
Stove will be in the great room. Open floor plan to kitchen, about 18 ft ceilings in both. The rest of the rooms 8ft ceilings. Total 1st floor sq ft of ~2,000. Loft above bedrooms looking over great room of around ~360 sq ft. Will have a central heat/air system, but would like to use the stove for main heat source most of the winter and could use fan in system to recirculate to other rooms. Will have 6" walls and well insulated. Texas high plains where we do get some winter and snow from time to time. Although nothing like N.E. Nebraska where I was raised.

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks.

 

[BrotherBart]

I am orginally from Lubbock and would get the dealerto show me how that cat stove can be burned on low heat output because going from 20-25 at night to the fifties in the daytime can be a wood burner's nightmare. And that is what you will be faced with through most November through February periods. I personally think a non-cat would be more flexible for you.

 

[elkimmeg]

BB a cat stove burns rather well in the 400 /450 range. Remember the cat will light off with internal firebox temps as low at 500 degrees.
secondary burning in non cat stoves require 1100 degrees to burn smoke its the lower end of the burn time where a cat combustor achieves complete secondary burning
a non cat stove cannot.

One of our regular poster The chimney sweep is a Buck dealer he is best to advise What to expect from buck stoves
Another member and site sponser Karen Duyke Vuictoria Fireplaces in VA also sells Buck stoves. Victoria fireplace web site is setup for live chats with their sales and tech
people. You can go there and engage with them and ask a all your questions about Buck stoves. Buck stoves is another manufacturer, that has been in business for over 30 years
building quality stoves. Unfortunately there are few retail outlets in New England They also carry a similar product line to Blaze King.

Finally have you looked at the Englander stove line up? If you have a home Depot or Lowes near by they are selling these stove 50% off making room of spring season.

 

[BrotherBart]

Not to argue Elk but I have run the 30-NC non-cat for days this year at 400 and under surface temp with secondary firing just fine. Load three splits front to back with the primary aimed through the middle of them, damp it down at 400 and it sits and loafs for four or five hours with the blue light show rolling. In fact the stove hasn't been over 500 but once this winter and 400-450 is where it lives most of the time.

If RedRaider wants to look at Englander stoves in Lubbock his best bet is to go to Sutherland's Lumber there and check'em out.

And he could stop off at Richard's Fried Chicken for me on the way and FedEx me some. Oh how I miss that chicken.

 

[elkimmeg]

You know, the more info disclosed about your stove the more amazed It is becoming. That 1.6 grams and the ability to achieve secondary burn
why are there not more Englander Nc-30 in people's homes? sheeee! I would not want Summit owners to feal threatened.

I know w you did research but I never imagined that stove and price range deliver goods as good or better that stove $3x more

It's making your decision look better and better not poman's Summit, smart persons alternative

Hey Mike tell me more about the NC-13. Does it share the same preformances features as the NC-30?

Mike are you sure BB is not employed by Englander? if not he should be getting a commission.

Not to hyjack this thread Maybe I should start a new post.

BB no arguement I am getting educated about NC-30 technology Thanks

 

[spohlman]

Not to argue Elk but I have run the 30-NC non-cat for days this year at 400 and under surface temp with secondary firing just fine. Load three splits front to back with the primary aimed through the middle of them, damp it down at 400 and it sits and loafs for four or five hours with the blue light show rolling. In fact the stove hasn't been over 500 but once this winter and 400-450 is where it lives most of the time.

If RedRaider wants to look at Englander stoves in Lubbock his best bet is to go to Sutherland's Lumber there and check'em out.

And he could stop off at Richard's Fried Chicken for me on the way and FedEx me some. Oh how I miss that chicken.

BB do you think the 30-NC would fit my application (heating entire home)? I had not looked at them yet. If so what price range should I expect? I don't make it down to Lubbock very often as Amarillo is closer, other than football tailgating season. So it may be a while before I can send you some chicken.

While I'm new to wood stoves, I have some experience with fireboxes! I'll see if I can figure out how to post a pic to show you what I mean.

 

[BrotherBart]

Ah yes. The standard Plainview backyard barbeque. By the way, there is a guy that sells Pacific Energy stoves on eBay at good prices and he is in Hereford. He isn't listed by PE as a legit dealer but sure does sell'em for a right price with freight included. So if he would back out the freight cost you might get a great deal on a good stove from him.

His phone number is 1-806-344-7453. Not much reason not post his number since he includes it in all of his eBay listings. I think the place is called Justin's Fireplace.

During the season Sutherland's was selling the 30-NC for between 750 and 850 in ads that I saw. They shipped one to me on the East Coast from Boulder, CO for a grand. I heat around 2,300-2,500 sq. ft. in Virginia with it with no problem. Well, except when I fool around and run the place up to 80+ degrees.

 

[spohlman]

BB thanks for all the info. I'll check out the pricing on the PE's as well.

Anyone else with feed back or advice on the Buck Stoves????

Thanks.