Buying another saw: Husky 365 or 562xp

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WiscWoody

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It is indeed the 24... I think in the future, i'm going to get a 20" bar for it but get the new lightweight Husky bar that came out. Dealer said its pricey though...

I think i shouldnt have pressed the decompression button after running it for a very short while. I think that is what somewhat flooded it. To clear it I just kept pulling until that sucker started spitting some smoke... lol. Either way, will get used to it by using it. I plan on cutting Saturday. My buddies 590 is new and for some reason it bogs on throttle pull (not in a cut) You think he needs to richen it up a bit? I know they say they come really lean from Echo.
Yeah it can be a bit frustrating at first with that saw but you’ll get a routine down for the different conditions when the saw it cold/warm/hot. I’m not sure about your buds saw- a lot of times nowadays you can’t adjust the carb and you have to replace it to make the device run right. That’s what happened to my new Husqvarna backpack blower, it bogged down when trying to accelerate it and I took it in for warranty work and they had to replace the carburetor on it.
BTW- I do lawncare in the summer and I mostly use Husqvarna for equipment as it seems I get more for the money from their products. My newest mower is a 72" 31hp fuel injected Husqvarna zero turn model that just gobbles up the grass! It’s a real nice ride.
 
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WiscWoody

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Nice! Hows that thing stripe?
I don’t have the striping rollers on it since I mow in a rural area where no one cares if their lawns are striped. Most of the lawns I mow are cabins or second houses and they are weedy old lawns with all the tree stumps and all.... the owners don’t want to come up and mow- they want to fish and drink beer and that works out good for me lol.

I was just out cutting the elm I’ve been working on the last few days and I was thinking.... the way Scott Kunz aka Tree Monkey raised the compression on my 562XP when he ported it I have to use the decompression button every time I start the saw. If I don’t press it I won’t get one revolution out of the engine and when it is used I can hardly crank it even then. No wander why Scott said to use only premium non-ethanol fuel which I did anyways. Also- the way I figure it, most of the wood I burn is free scrounge wood except for a load of wood that I recently bought to catch up after a move this last summer.... so if I spend a bundle on a good pro saw then that’s my heating cost and it’s something tangible that I’ll have probably the rest of my life at my age. Right? :)
 
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woodhog73

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I haven’t read through all the posts so this may have already been stated. Anyways I have been running Husky and Jonsered saws since I was a teenager. I’m pushing 50 these days. Run probably every pro saw out of Sweden in my lifetime.

The 365 and 372 have always shared the same bottom end. Both are full PRO saws. Full mag cases. Built to work in a commercial production environment. The pre Xtorq models have a better bottom end build. The crank shaft and main bearings are stouter. Cost cutting or whatever the case may be resulted in the new Xtorqs having plastic cages on the crank bearings. But I have a Xtorq Jonsered 2172 ( same as Husky 372) with probably a 1,000 hours on it still runs like a champ.

Anywho a pre Xtorq 365/372 the difference was the displacement. The 365 was 65cc and the 372 was 70cc. About $100 price difference. The 365 was “ marketed “ as a farm saw. But that’s marketing. It’s a downsized 372. And some compared it to a Stihl 390/391. Not on this planet or any other. The Stihl 039/390/391 is a plastic clam saw.

An Xtorq 365 and 372 are both 70cc. The 365 has a divider in the transfer which lowers its power a little. You don’t notice it unless your trying to pull a 24 inch bar buried in oak. Otherwise you can’t tell the difference.

As for a 562 well it is a 60cc saw. It feels and is a medium size saw. Both the 365 and 372 are what I would consider a “ big “ saw. More robust more torque more real world power to pull a longer bar.
 

WiscWoody

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I haven’t read through all the posts so this may have already been stated. Anyways I have been running Husky and Jonsered saws since I was a teenager. I’m pushing 50 these days. Run probably every pro saw out of Sweden in my lifetime.

The 365 and 372 have always shared the same bottom end. Both are full PRO saws. Full mag cases. Built to work in a commercial production environment. The pre Xtorq models have a better bottom end build. The crank shaft and main bearings are stouter. Cost cutting or whatever the case may be resulted in the new Xtorqs having plastic cages on the crank bearings. But I have a Xtorq Jonsered 2172 ( same as Husky 372) with probably a 1,000 hours on it still runs like a champ.

Anywho a pre Xtorq 365/372 the difference was the displacement. The 365 was 65cc and the 372 was 70cc. About $100 price difference. The 365 was “ marketed “ as a farm saw. But that’s marketing. It’s a downsized 372. And some compared it to a Stihl 390/391. Not on this planet or any other. The Stihl 039/390/391 is a plastic clam saw.

An Xtorq 365 and 372 are both 70cc. The 365 has a divider in the transfer which lowers its power a little. You don’t notice it unless your trying to pull a 24 inch bar buried in oak. Otherwise you can’t tell the difference.

As for a 562 well it is a 60cc saw. It feels and is a medium size saw. Both the 365 and 372 are what I would consider a “ big “ saw. More robust more torque more real world power to pull a longer bar.
Until you get a ported 562XP then the medium saw feels like a big barrel saw.
 
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woodhog73

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Until you get a ported 562XP then the medium saw feels like a big barrel saw.

Nope.

I have a ported and polished Jonsered 2252 built with a high top piston, no base gasket, muffler mod. Auto tune always runs perfect. It’s a Strong 50cc saw. With an 18 inch bar it will cut with any stock 60cc saw even outcut it including a 562. No problem. But a stock 562 will pull a 24 inch bar better than my 50cc hot rod. More torque. Period. My 50cc modded saw will not do well pulling 24 inches 3/8 chain. And it’s a race mod saw not a woods port. It’s a screamer.

Don’t believe me ? My 50cc ported saw with an 18 inch bar also outcuts my my Stihl 056 in small wood. But my 056 will pull a 60 inch bar if needed. I run a 28 inch bar on my 056 as an every day bar. My 2252 that screams like it’s on steroids would never do that. My 056 is old. It does not pump out RPMs like my modded 2252 does.

What I’m saying is there is no replacement for displacement. If I needed a 28 inch bar for production cutting there isn’t a 562 on earth that I would choose over a stock 372 ( or any other 70 to 90 cc saw ) BUT that’s if I needed a big bar.

If all I need is a 20 inch bar sure a nice running and light modern 60 cc saw sounds about perfect for my old aging self. Heavy saws are tiring
 

woodhog73

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Let’s race em ! Lol

The only reason I modded a small 50cc saw is because I’m old have an aching back and I hate big heavy saws. I get more done with the little 50cc. And I don’t get tired. Hey I’m a big fan of the 562. It is the only 60cc I’d ever spend my money on. But in general I’m not one to favor 60cc saws. Nonetheless the 562 is Best in class in my opinion. But a 372 it will never be no matter how much money you put into it
 

WiscWoody

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Nope.

I have a ported and polished Jonsered 2252 built with a high top piston, no base gasket, muffler mod. Auto tune always runs perfect. It’s a Strong 50cc saw. With an 18 inch bar it will cut with any stock 60cc saw even outcut it including a 562. No problem. But a stock 562 will pull a 24 inch bar better than my 50cc hot rod. More torque. Period. My 50cc modded saw will not do well pulling 24 inches 3/8 chain. And it’s a race mod saw not a woods port. It’s a screamer.

Don’t believe me ? My 50cc ported saw with an 18 inch bar also outcuts my my Stihl 056 in small wood. But my 056 will pull a 60 inch bar if needed. I run a 28 inch bar on my 056 as an every day bar. My 2252 that screams like it’s on steroids would never do that. My 056 is old. It does not pump out RPMs like my modded 2252 does.

What I’m saying is there is no replacement for displacement. If I needed a 28 inch bar for production cutting there isn’t a 562 on earth that I would choose over a stock 372 ( or any other 70 to 90 cc saw ) BUT that’s if I needed a big bar.

If all I need is a 20 inch bar sure a nice running and light modern 60 cc saw sounds about perfect for my old aging self. Heavy saws are tiring
That’s all I run on my ported 562- a 20" bar with full chisel chains and that’s because that is all I need for most of the wood I cut but if I need something bigger then I opt for my ported 390XP with a 28" bar and full chisel chains. But I think my ported 562XP has the power of a bigger displacement saw. Maybe you don’t but that’s fine.
 

woodhog73

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But I think my ported 562XP has the power of a bigger displacement saw.

I’m sure it does. My ported 50cc cuts like a 60cc with a 50cc sized bar ( 18 inches). So I’m guessing with a 20 inch bar your modded 562 replicates a 372 fairly well.

But in a situation that calls for a 24 to 28 inch bar the larger 372 is going to prevail every time. If you needed to log a few acres filled with 40 inch oaks and 2 saws were in your shed a modded 60cc or a stock 70cc the natural choice is to take the bigger saw.

Modded 562 is a cheetah. Stock 372 is still a lion. Ok dumb comparison but it makes a point

As for your 390xp great saw. Stihl might be the most popular in most markets but like many of us already know the best saws come out of Sweden ...:) ;)
 
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Nov 11, 2013
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Well? What do you think after the first day?

He likes it so much that he's still out there cutting with it:)

Wow.... Really guys... I'm ecstatic! I think the difference between 3/8lp and regular 3/8 alone was something to behold. But damn. I'm glad I went with the 24" bar. I was cutting through Red Oak still on the tree like a hot knife through butter. I literally just rested the bar on the tree and let it eat. Never jumped on me once.never got stuck. Just kept an eye on the wood chips coming out for change in color.

It literally took me 15 minutes to cut up what we could actually fit in our trailer. We might have overloaded the trailer a tad, the axle was starting to bow... But it was a short trip and we got it to my house.

Observations about the 562xp and the EchoCS-590
1. Glad I didnt get CS-590. There is no comparison on how it operates vs the 562. It just eats.
2. It felt like the 590 didnt have very aggressive teeth on the saw, however it was a full chiesel chain 20" bar. It never really bogged, but it just didnt feel like it was cutting well.
3. One bad thing with the 562 that I need to never do again. Never ever ever press the decompression valve when its been hot and try to restart.... 30 pulls later, it was back in action, but damn, that was a lot of work. Either keep it running or when your ready to restart again, don't press that valve.
4. It does not start as quickly as my cs-400 echo, but the power difference is a-freaking-mazing.

All-in-all it was no sweat for the saw yesterday, cutting 22" diameter (at its thinnest) and 36" diameter (at its widest) wet red oak. The hardest part of the day was loading and unloading.

Worst part of the day. Splitting by hand... Damn My hands are sore.

Would I have needed the 365... I really don't think so. The 562XP is going to serve me many many great years!
 

Todd67

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Good report, thanks! I'm not surprised that you love your 562xp. It's all the saw that I'll ever need.
 

woodhog73

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The 562 and Cs590 don’t even belong in the same universe. Now you know what fun is again.

Just misleading. I’m a Swede saw fan since the 70s when I was a kid. Helping to heat the family homestead. and the 562 is the best 60cc saw on the market as far as cut throat performance goes. In my opinion. But if you think on this your paying almost double. For a firewood cutter or anyone cutting less than 10 hours a day everyday in production, and/or less than hundreds and hundreds of cords a year as a business, one could reasonably say the average joe is better with the 590 Echo.

Why ?? Like I said half the cost. Then take the saws apart. They are both very well built. Both have mag cases. Both have durable crank shafts. Both have well thought out designs. Knowing how well Japanese equipment is made in general I wouldn’t be surprised if the 590 has higher quality main bearings and crankshaft strength than the Husky. After all it’s a Honda or Toyota type machine.

Recent Husky cost cutting has resulted in plastic cage main bearings. My old 2165 Johnny was replaced by a 2172 ( 2166 converted ) several years ago. The Johnny Red is a 365/372 in red and BOY did quality drop. And the 2 ring top end on the Echo is going to generally last longer than the 1 ring Husky. And let’s not forget with the $350 saved on the Echo you could put that towards a new splitter so you don’t have to keep swinging a maul
( as someone said a few posts above )

Yes the Husky 562 will out perform a stock 590. But they are probably closer than you think and one keeps a lot more money in your wallet.

Just saying
 

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Just misleading. I’m a Swede saw fan since the 70s when I was a kid. Helping to heat the family homestead. and the 562 is the best 60cc saw on the market as far as cut throat performance goes. In my opinion. But if you think on this your paying almost double. For a firewood cutter or anyone cutting less than 10 hours a day everyday in production, and/or less than hundreds and hundreds of cords a year as a business, one could reasonably say the average joe is better with the 590 Echo.

Why ?? Like I said half the cost. Then take the saws apart. They are both very well built. Both have mag cases. Both have durable crank shafts. Both have well thought out designs. Knowing how well Japanese equipment is made in general I wouldn’t be surprised if the 590 has higher quality main bearings and crankshaft strength than the Husky. After all it’s a Honda or Toyota type machine.

Recent Husky cost cutting has resulted in plastic cage main bearings. My old 2165 Johnny was replaced by a 2172 ( 2166 converted ) several years ago. The Johnny Red is a 365/372 in red and BOY did quality drop. And the 2 ring top end on the Echo is going to generally last longer than the 1 ring Husky. And let’s not forget with the $350 saved on the Echo you could put that towards a new splitter so you don’t have to keep swinging a maul
( as someone said a few posts above )

Yes the Husky 562 will out perform a stock 590. But they are probably closer than you think and one keeps a lot more money in your wallet.

Just saying

I paid $250 more for the Husky (Got a nice little deal on it from my local dealer) That being said, having used both saws, there really is no comparison in cutting performance. the 562xp just goes and it generally feels much stable while in the cut. The 590 seemed to be pretty high strung, but it just wasnt cutting with the same gusto as the 562xp.Cutting next to eachother, my buddy was still sawing for a long while after I had completed my cut, and he looked like he was pushing down a lot on that saw, where as I just let the saw's weight do the work.

Would I be OK with the 590? Sure. Would I be as satisfied as I am now that I have tried both... No way.
 

Medic21

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I paid $250 more for the Husky (Got a nice little deal on it from my local dealer) That being said, having used both saws, there really is no comparison in cutting performance. the 562xp just goes and it generally feels much stable while in the cut. The 590 seemed to be pretty high strung, but it just wasnt cutting with the same gusto as the 562xp.Cutting next to eachother, my buddy was still sawing for a long while after I had completed my cut, and he looked like he was pushing down a lot on that saw, where as I just let the saw's weight do the work.

Would I be OK with the 590? Sure. Would I be as satisfied as I am now that I have tried both... No way.

And that was my point. I can cut all the wood I need with a MS170 but why use a Ford when I can Use a Dodge
 
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Chas0218

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Only 60cc saw I have is the old 041av stihl, has a 24" bar no problem in any hardwoods and sounds pretty cool doing it. My little 550 XP has an 18" bar and it cuts like a hot knife through butter no matter what wood long as the chain is sharp. Either way I cut around 6 cords of wood a year and various other improvements to our 40 acres using the 550 XP. and the 041 was demoted to the chainsaw mill for the time being. I have a small Husky 435 I use on rare occasions but the 550 is my go too. I don't think you'll be disappointed with your Husky, I know I wouldn't trade mine for anything.
 
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Zack R

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A bit late to the party but one thing I like about my 365... parts are still available. After 20 years the fuel tank cracked and started leaking, called my local Husqvarna dealer and they had one available in a few days. In addition the 365 is easy to maintain, the fuel tank replacement took just over an hour and that was my first time, with a few beers and cleaning everything out with the air compressor. You can tell they built this thing with maintenance and repairs in mind.

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woodhog73

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I paid $250 more for the Husky

Would I be OK with the 590? Sure. Would I be as satisfied as I am now that I have tried both... No way.

I’m on my last post here. You said it I didn’t. You paid $250 more for a 562. And it won’t cut any more wood than an Echo 590. But your wallet is lighter.

That said the better deal is a Husky 555. Only $100 more than the Echo vs $300 more as is with the 562. Pro saw and 1/2 hp reduction on the 562.

People here are not making a living with a saw. So a Echo 590 will put just as much wood on the ground as any other 60cc saw.

And for less money.

Then there is always the crowd that will say if it’s not a Stihl then it’s sub par. Let’s be honest. In the real world a Stihl 362 Mtronic outsells, out performs ( based on numbers ) and generally outlasts a 562 Xp. Both are tier 1 pro 60cc saws. People who make a living with a saw will run us Swede saw fans over by pure numbers. At the end of the day it doesn’t matter. A Echo 590 will probably laugh last. Cause for firewood cutters it’s a better deal. And Pro users will laugh last cause they will argue a Stihl 362 is superior to any Husky out there.

So who really cares in the end.
 
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Chas0218

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I’m on my last post here. You said it I didn’t. You paid $250 more for a 562. And it won’t cut any more wood than an Echo 590. But your wallet is lighter.

That said the better deal is a Husky 555. Only $100 more than the Echo vs $300 more as is with the 562. Pro saw and 1/2 hp reduction on the 562.

People here are not making a living with a saw. So a Echo 590 will put just as much wood on the ground as any other 60cc saw.

And for less money.

Then there is always the crowd that will say if it’s not a Stihl then it’s sub par. Let’s be honest. In the real world a Stihl 362 Mtronic outsells, out performs ( based on numbers ) and generally outlasts a 562 Xp. Both are tier 1 pro 60cc saws. People who make a living with a saw will run us Swede saw fans over by pure numbers. At the end of the day it doesn’t matter. A Echo 590 will probably laugh last. Cause for firewood cutters it’s a better deal. And Pro users will laugh last cause they will argue a Stihl 362 is superior to any Husky out there.

So who really cares in the end.
I see where you're coming from, when I made my purchase last year my dealer carries both Echo and Husky. I asked if I could try out both saws(CS 501 and XP 550) and he did. I can tell you the Echo didn't hold a candle to the Husky. The chain speed, power in cut, vibration all was completely different. I liked the Echo but the Husky was way more saw for only the $20 difference. I was out the door for $610 with 4 cans of synthetic fuel, spare 18" chain and scabbard. My comfort while operating for the next 20 years outweighs that $40. I can say when I cut 9 cords worth of hardwood this year I'm happy with the 550. A lot less fatigue than with my 041 or my father in laws farm boss. My father in law's Stihl farm boss is about 30 years old and still chugging along. My step dad has owned Stihl all his firewood career and at 70 years old is still out cutting and hand splitting a cord/year for a friend. He said he should have switched to Husky a number of years ago but had a dealer he like and serviced all his saws over the years and kept buying from him as he didn't know anything about other brands.
 
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I’m on my last post here. You said it I didn’t. You paid $250 more for a 562. And it won’t cut any more wood than an Echo 590. But your wallet is lighter.

That said the better deal is a Husky 555. Only $100 more than the Echo vs $300 more as is with the 562. Pro saw and 1/2 hp reduction on the 562.

People here are not making a living with a saw. So a Echo 590 will put just as much wood on the ground as any other 60cc saw.

And for less money.

Then there is always the crowd that will say if it’s not a Stihl then it’s sub par. Let’s be honest. In the real world a Stihl 362 Mtronic outsells, out performs ( based on numbers ) and generally outlasts a 562 Xp. Both are tier 1 pro 60cc saws. People who make a living with a saw will run us Swede saw fans over by pure numbers. At the end of the day it doesn’t matter. A Echo 590 will probably laugh last. Cause for firewood cutters it’s a better deal. And Pro users will laugh last cause they will argue a Stihl 362 is superior to any Husky out there.

So who really cares in the end.

All I'm saying is that after trying both, I'm glad I spent the extra money on the Husqvarna. It performs much better than the 590 out of the box. Now I'm sure once a few tanks are through these, they will both open up, and the CS590 likely will really open up. But again, I don't lament the extra amount of money I spent. To me it really felt like it was worth it.