Bye bye ICE

[walhondingnashua]

Hybrid question here...
Who now makes a hybrid option for a truck or SUV? I know the small deisel option has seemed to have quietly increased but what about a hybrid? Ford has the powerboost but does Dodge put the same hybrid in a ram as they do a gladiator?

 

[begreen]

Toyota offers good options. They are the original and probably most reliable hybrid system. It's licensed to several other major car companies. In SUVs there are many choices. In trucks, in addition to Toyota Tacoma and Tundra, Ford has the Maverick & F150, RAM has the 1500 hybrid.

 

[walhondingnashua]

Any experience with the Jeep 4xe models? Is that what's in the Rams?

 

[weee123]

Has anyone seen this yet? I’m very interested to see how this plays out, with future models and pricing.

Ford’s new model T moment

 

[walhondingnashua]

Has anyone seen this yet? I’m very interested to see how this plays out, with future models and pricing.

Ford’s new model T moment

I would assume they're following the Slate truck idea. Something very cheap but gets the job done. Personally I love the idea of being able to "build" your truck but from an extremely simple start. There are sill so many things on new trucks that I just don't want but have to pay for. I don't need a dash with a big media screen . I only use the speakers in my truck really because I run everything through my phone.

 

[weee123]

I would assume they're following the Slate truck idea. Something very cheap but gets the job done. Personally I love the idea of being able to "build" your truck but from an extremely simple start. There are sill so many things on new trucks that I just don't want but have to pay for. I don't need a dash with a big media screen . I only use the speakers in my truck really because I run everything through my phone.

Can’t even get just a plain jane work truck anymore

 

[walhondingnashua]

Can’t even get just a plain jane work truck anymore

Maybe this is the path to that. I know the Lightning was supposed to be geared towards fleet use but it didn't take off.

 

[EbS-P]

If wanting a hybrid stay away from Stellantis products. I’d chose Toyota.

 

[walhondingnashua]

Poor reliability I am assuming?

 

[EbS-P]

Poor reliability I am assuming?

I haven’t read much about the jeep 4e system. But there was a recall that didn’t replace the batteries. The Pacifica hybrid system was bad. I have not read anything about what’s in the new Ram. What’s in the Tacoma is good. I haven’t read up on the new Tunda hybrid. The Maverick probably had a decent hybrid system.

Here is my thoughts on hybrid trucks. Unless the are plug in hybrid the advantage is just a few mpgs and extra torque to supplement and smaller ICE.

I really wish Mercedes would put their 2.0 L diesel AWD in a small/mid size truck platform. With a gross combined weight rating of 15,000 pounds for a sprinter you could make a good truck with that.

 

[DBoon]

I really wish Mercedes would put their 2.0 L diesel AWD in a small/mid size truck platform. With a gross combined weight rating of 15,000 pounds for a sprinter you could make a good truck with that.

For years I've wondered why small diesels aren't combined with batteries and motors for small to mid-sized truck applications, and I'm still wondering. Yeah, I know it costs more to do that, but diesel is also $4/gal (or more) and you'd think it would pencil out for fleet owners. Maybe the delivery-type trucks are just going all electric anyways and the market is too small?

 

[woodgeek]

For years I've wondered why small diesels aren't combined with batteries and motors for small to mid-sized truck applications, and I'm still wondering. Yeah, I know it costs more to do that, but diesel is also $4/gal (or more) and you'd think it would pencil out for fleet owners. Maybe the delivery-type trucks are just going all electric anyways and the market is too small?

Emissions controls make it too expensive?

 

[EbS-P]

Emissions controls make it too expensive?

Mann has large diesels that have no DPF or EGRs. Word is they use LOTS of DEF. I think the whole system would be more expensive. But the idea that a small diesel could run at its maximum efficiency point all the time has to have some benefits. they efficiency gain just doesn’t out weight the extra cost.

 

[begreen]

For years I've wondered why small diesels aren't combined with batteries and motors for small to mid-sized truck applications, and I'm still wondering. Yeah, I know it costs more to do that, but diesel is also $4/gal (or more) and you'd think it would pencil out for fleet owners. Maybe the delivery-type trucks are just going all electric anyways and the market is too small?

It has come up every once in a while. There was chatter about this a few years back.

Wait. Why haven't we seen a diesel hybrid truck?

We have gas hybrid pickups, but where is the diesel hybrid truck? Tim and Alan talk about why no one is making one yet. (Hint: $$$)

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