Bypass Igniter??

[Crazy Dave]

Hi all!

Still rockin' the '09 Breckwell P24FS here....... Got 3 tons of Turman to be delivered on Tuesday, and in the process of moving about 30 bags left over from last season and clean the garage to make room.

Got a question.......

My igniter still works, but I haven't really used/relied on it in years... I always use my stove in "manual" mode and I've been lighting w/ a torch for reliability and efficiency. I'm considering building a battery BU system, and although the igniter may be a minimal drain in the grand scheme of things, it still pulls a good amount of wattage for about 10 minutes (even w/ the torch start). I'm aiming to maximize the battery BU (if I get so inclined to cough up the dough and find time to create it). According to the manual/schematic, it looks like I 'should' be able to just disconnect it, and carry on w/ life, but I haven't had the time yet to verify the actual wiring inside the stove vs the schematic. Does anyone have any experience w/ this and can or cannot confirm?

My setup now:
I have a Cyberpower 1500W UPS.
Stove running = ~160W (UPS should give me about 30-40min run time according to it's calculations and a test run of about 15-20 minutes)
Stove starting w/ igniter on = ~350-400W w/ auger kicking in. Once the room fan kicked in, it was about 450ish W till the igniter shut off and the stove ran happy at ~160W again.

Idea is to build the battery BU to use in an extended power outage (not that we get that many where I am in central PA, but last year we were w/o for about 2 days, and to my surprise, mice ate through the old generator's wiring, which I just had running a few weeks prior!)........... Mainly use the inverter generator to power and charge everything during the day, and use the battery BU at night....... Sole intention and priority is heat and fridge....... hell, in the mid of winter, we could store fridge stuff outside in coolers..... We're on a well, but fresh water is close enough by.

I look forward to your answers and thoughts!

Thanks in advance!

 

[Whitenuckler]

Hi all!

Still rockin' the '09 Breckwell P24FS here....... Got 3 tons of Turman to be delivered on Tuesday, and in the process of moving about 30 bags left over from last season and clean the garage to make room.

Got a question.......

My igniter still works, but I haven't really used/relied on it in years... I always use my stove in "manual" mode and I've been lighting w/ a torch for reliability and efficiency. I'm considering building a battery BU system, and although the igniter may be a minimal drain in the grand scheme of things, it still pulls a good amount of wattage for about 10 minutes (even w/ the torch start). I'm aiming to maximize the battery BU (if I get so inclined to cough up the dough and find time to create it). According to the manual/schematic, it looks like I 'should' be able to just disconnect it, and carry on w/ life, but I haven't had the time yet to verify the actual wiring inside the stove vs the schematic. Does anyone have any experience w/ this and can or cannot confirm?

My setup now:
I have a Cyberpower 1500W UPS.
Stove running = ~160W (UPS should give me about 30-40min run time according to it's calculations and a test run of about 15-20 minutes)
Stove starting w/ igniter on = ~350-400W w/ auger kicking in. Once the room fan kicked in, it was about 450ish W till the igniter shut off and the stove ran happy at ~160W again.

Idea is to build the battery BU to use in an extended power outage (not that we get that many where I am in central PA, but last year we were w/o for about 2 days, and to my surprise, mice ate through the old generator's wiring, which I just had running a few weeks prior!)........... Mainly use the inverter generator to power and charge everything during the day, and use the battery BU at night....... Sole intention and priority is heat and fridge....... hell, in the mid of winter, we could store fridge stuff outside in coolers..... We're on a well, but fresh water is close enough by.

I look forward to your answers and thoughts!

Thanks in advance!

https://woodstoves.net/documents/breckwell/P24_Manual.pdf

It looks like you just need to disconnect the red wire see page 30. You could add a male and female insulated blade terminal so that it can be disconnected and connected. My stove has a switch to put the igniter in manual mode (light stove with torch).
You are correct about the igniter draw. You do not want to use that if you need to light on that UPS.
For a bigger system I'd look at a system like mine. True Sine Wave Inverter, 12V battery(s) and a 35A charger. On a power outage you can recharge the battery with a 120V generator or 12V from a solar panel or from your car.
I run my pellet stove on the inverter all the time. If you eventually get a system like mine you will not need the UPS. That might be useful for your computer or some other location ect.
All of your wattages look like mine. I have a plug type power meter, however my inverter has a display also.

 

[zrock]

You do realize that your ignitor is still working even tough you are manually lighting. It will run until the stove senses fire and takes it out of lighting mode. In my old breckwell i find about 1min difference between lighting with fire gel or letting it do its own thing.

 

[Dataman]

Should be switch to put in Manual Mode. I use Inverter Charger with couple 100ah Batteries (getting 300ah next year). Gets me about 24 hours I hope. Longest so far 10 hours on 1 Battery (100ah). I recommend turning down fan speed to get more hours during power outage. I have Sportsman 1k Generator if longer run time needed. (AIMS 1250 in Picture). Power up here is underground going to house. Your UPS is not worth having except to shut it down.