Castle serenity pellet stove New user ?

Frey

New Member
Dec 13, 2017
2
Pennsylvania
By thermostat, you mean a remote one mounted on a wall, or the control panel temp reading?
Almost sounds like you have no stove fans operating or something. How much exhaust chimney is connected and is it clean?
I closed the damper today as far as the slide would let me. Seems like theres still a lot of airway open though. This did nothing to change the flame at all. Still smacking the roof of the stove. The control panel temperature gauge is what I was talking about. As for piping I have it straight run out the back (about a foot from the wall) then outside about 3 ft up from the T. I clean the outside once a week. Only been running it about a month now so it's never that dirty. I left a message with them today, no call back though
 

Deezl Smoke

Feeling the Heat
Nov 28, 2015
463
Oregon
I closed the damper today as far as the slide would let me. Seems like theres still a lot of airway open though. This did nothing to change the flame at all. Still smacking the roof of the stove. The control panel temperature gauge is what I was talking about. As for piping I have it straight run out the back (about a foot from the wall) then outside about 3 ft up from the T. I clean the outside once a week. Only been running it about a month now so it's never that dirty. I left a message with them today, no call back though
That's kinda what I am getting at, the flames hitting the roof of the stove can be from too little air, not too much. If the fan is running correctly, the pellet load will glow and the flame will be a few inches tall, on average, and nearly straight up like a jet engine flame.
When there is too little air, or virtually no air, the flame will look a fireplace or wood stove flame. Tall, lazy, smokey and very full of color. When my stoves start up, sometimes the pot gets pretty full before sparks fly and the pellets ignite. When this happens, the pellet load in the pot is so dense that the air can not get through. The flame will be quite tall and hit the roof of the stove for a minute or so. I can see a bit of smoke coming out of the exhaust when I watch outside.

When standing in front of the stove facing it, to your left, there is a panel on the side of the stove that can be removed via 4 small screws. It is the back half of the side of the stove. That is how you access the exhaust blower. See is it is running or running well. I know it is supposed to run in order to get a vacuum signal to the vacuum switch to operate, but it may be that your controller is not functioning properly or something like that.

On heat setting one, manual, you should be able to get around 16 to maybe 18 or so hours of run time on a 40# bag of pellets that the stove is set up for.

Your exhaust piping, if I read it right, sounds fine. In fact, the vertical piping may even be enough in the right circumstance to create a draft which "may" be enough to continue the pellet burn in the absence or near absence of fan speed. I dont know for absolute certain, but vertical piping once worm, will pull air through the stove.
 

Hiskid

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Sep 26, 2017
70
PA
I closed the damper today as far as the slide would let me. Seems like there's still a lot of airway open though. This did nothing to change the flame at all. Still smacking the roof of the stove. The control panel temperature gauge is what I was talking about. As for piping I have it straight run out the back (about a foot from the wall) then outside about 3 ft up from the T. I clean the outside once a week. Only been running it about a month now so it's never that dirty. I left a message with them today, no call back though
My flame smacks the roof and modulates down to just above the pot on #1. I had to open my draft to about half. My stack is in a protected corner and when the air is still the flame gets lazy I bump ex. v up . When the air is moving it is like a blow torch and I can do ex @ 80v. I tried it at 1/3 open but I needed more air when it was still/raining. I never really checked the usage on #1 but it was 19 last night and I had it on 3. It was 83 on the stove and the window fan at the top of the window showed 80 blowing in the m/h. I topped it off at midnight and checked it during a b/r trip 4-5 hrs later. It was low so I added 4 scoops. She was up about 8 and it was down where you see the auger top.
 

dtaylor628

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Nov 30, 2017
24
Western Wa
I have a well insulated 1500 st home, my stove would run me out of the house on low after it reached set temp. I made a cover for the auger that blocks entry of pellets into It, slowed the pellet feed down some. I can run the stove on setting one for 27 hours on one hopper. On the temp setting it will jump to high for a few minutes every hour or so to maintain temp, but I will still get 24 hours on a hopper. Cost me 3 dollars in parts.

On manual mode hi, the stove now runs about 100 degrees cooler than it did from the factory.
 
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Hiskid

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Sep 26, 2017
70
PA
I have a well insulated 1500 st home, my stove would run me out of the house on low after it reached set temp. I made a cover for the auger that blocks entry of pellets into It, slowed the pellet feed down some. I can run the stove on setting one for 27 hours on one hopper. On the temp setting it will jump to high for a few minutes every hour or so to maintain temp, but I will still get 24 hours on a hopper. Cost me 3 dollars in parts.

On manual mode hi, the stove now runs about 100 degrees cooler than it did from the factory.
Any pics, instructions or parts list ? Can you describe the flame operation ? Is there much hi/lo modulation. Thanks GBY
 

dtaylor628

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Nov 30, 2017
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I just fabbed up a piece of tin that I double back taped to the auger housing. The tin is almost the width of the housing and extends approximately three inches below the cutout at the bottom where the pellets enter the auger.

On setting one, the stove operates at less than 300 degrees as measured on the side of the firebox. About 100 degrees cooler at the same fan settings from before the modification. The flame will extend a couple inches above the burn pot to about level with the top of the pot on low. The pictures show the average low and high. Been running it this way for almost a month now, no problems. No increase in ash, no extra soot on the glass and has not shut down due to an overtemp. Extended run times on high give me about 500 degrees max. Before I would hit 650. Just ran the stove 26 hours on low, still have an hour or two left on the bag...
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Hiskid

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Sep 26, 2017
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PA
View attachment 218829 View attachment 218830 View attachment 218831 View attachment 218833 I just fabbed up a piece of tin that I double back taped to the auger housing. The tin is almost the width of the housing and extends approximately three inches below the cutout at the bottom where the pellets enter the auger.

On setting one, the stove operates at less than 300 degrees as measured on the side of the firebox. About 100 degrees cooler at the same fan settings from before the modification. The flame will extend a couple inches above the burn pot to about level with the top of the pot on low. The pictures show the average low and high. Been running it this way for almost a month now, no problems. No increase in ash, no extra soot on the glass and has not shut down due to an overtemp. Extended run times on high give me about 500 degrees max. Before I would hit 650. Just ran the stove 26 hours on low, still have an hour or two left on the bag... View attachment 218829 View attachment 218830 View attachment 218831
Cool, thanks for that. Be nice to have a channel on each side to be able to slide it up/down. Is that auger tube hot ? What double stick tape did you use ? Was the 3" a random choice or did you try different measurements ? Is that tin or aluminum ? Remember the gauge ? Sorry for all the ???'s
I have my stove on a porch I turned into a sun room. Many warmer days I would have like the stove to "idle" without having to shut it down. Thanks and God bless.

BTW, where exactly is that thermometer location ?
 
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dtaylor628

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Nov 30, 2017
24
Western Wa
The auger tube gets warm but not hot. I used 3M tape and a section of sheet metal I bent to the contour of the tube, don't remember the gauge but thin enough to cut with tin snips. I initially went longer and shortened the tin until I found the right feed/burn rate. The thermostat is on the side of the stove at the hotest location i could find with my infared thermometer - almost at the top of the stove just below the heat exchanger.
 

rich2500

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Cool, thanks for that. Be nice to have a channel on each side to be able to slide it up/down. Is that auger tube hot ? What double stick tape did you use ? Was the 3" a random choice or did you try different measurements ? Is that tin or aluminum ? Remember the gauge ? Sorry for all the ???'s
I have my stove on a porch I turned into a sun room. Many warmer days I would have like the stove to "idle" without having to shut it down. Thanks and God bless.

BTW, where exactly is that thermometer location ?
The idea of the slider is the first thing that came to mind when I seen the pic. hmmm may have to do some tinkering
 

dtaylor628

New Member
Nov 30, 2017
24
Western Wa
Hoping the damper is my issue. Flame is bouncing off the ceiling of the stove and thermostat is saying it's 90 degrees(definitely not that in the room). I've been going through a bag of pellets every 8 hours only running on setting one.

Does anyone know is there a way to slow the auger down? Pellets drop every 4 1/2 seconds. Seems unnecessary. House is 1000 sq ft and very well insulated.

This will slow the auger down

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Stihlfarmhouse91

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Apr 28, 2019
20
Central ny
So maybe I can bring this back alive. Dtaylor that controller you sell on eBay it’s just a plug and play kit to slow the voltage to the auger? Is it a solid state control or a vfd? I bought my castle back in June just installed it this past weekend. Fired it up this morning cause we had 39 degrees when I woke up. Another thing is when starting before the flame kicked over I had a small amount of smoke come out of the heat exchanger area just wondering if that was “normal” I expected the stink and stuff from the initial fire once hot but this was before hand. Thanks in advance.
 

Deezl Smoke

Feeling the Heat
Nov 28, 2015
463
Oregon
So maybe I can bring this back alive. Dtaylor that controller you sell on eBay it’s just a plug and play kit to slow the voltage to the auger? Is it a solid state control or a vfd? I bought my castle back in June just installed it this past weekend. Fired it up this morning cause we had 39 degrees when I woke up. Another thing is when starting before the flame kicked over I had a small amount of smoke come out of the heat exchanger area just wondering if that was “normal” I expected the stink and stuff from the initial fire once hot but this was before hand. Thanks in advance.
You may have a leak at the connection from stove to chimney. A bit of pellet smoke there can be picked up by the room fan and blow it into the room. Otherwise, you would almost have to have a defective stove with a crack or bad weld in the fire box. One other possibility would be that you had a flash over ignition where the fire box fills with hot smoke and once the pellets do ignite, the smoke ignites too. Usually this makes a sound that resembles a "whooosh". My serenities do this from time to time if the pellets absorbed a bit of humidity.
 

Stihlfarmhouse91

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Apr 28, 2019
20
Central ny
You may have a leak at the connection from stove to chimney. A bit of pellet smoke there can be picked up by the room fan and blow it into the room. Otherwise, you would almost have to have a defective stove with a crack or bad weld in the fire box. One other possibility would be that you had a flash over ignition where the fire box fills with hot smoke and once the pellets do ignite, the smoke ignites too. Usually this makes a sound that resembles a "whooosh". My serenities do this from time to time if the pellets absorbed a bit of humidity.
I didn’t hear a woosh. The smoke smelled more metallic than wood. But that being said I could have just been a little on edge about starting it, before work at 6 am. I’ll know for sure if it does it again. Now I just gotta get my blower vfd set right and check into a feed rate adjustment of some sort. Cool little stove tho.