clarify these trees please
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ArsenalDon
Minister of Fire
First looks a little like White Ash as far as the coarseness of the bark, but I don't see the 'diamond' pattern in the bark. Need a couple more pics of the bark from different heights on the trunk, and branches if you can zoom in for a good pic. There are two of those trees there, should be some leaves on the ground?
Second pic, yep, Hackberry for sure. Supposed to be decent middle-heat wood. Never tried it but we have it here, so I will before too long.
Second pic, yep, Hackberry for sure. Supposed to be decent middle-heat wood. Never tried it but we have it here, so I will before too long.
splitoak
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The bottom one looks like hackberry..if it is its good stuff...its pretty easy to identify...splits areall white and stringy...dries pretty fast..
Ralphie Boy
Minister of Fire
The first is almost ash, but I'm with Woody, bark is not quite right. Does it have opposite branching? If so it's ash, if not?????? Maybe tulip poplar....
The second is hackberry for sure and a nice one at that. Nothing else looks like hackberry. Good stuff, I've burned a bunch this year and I have lots more ready for next year. With hackberry once it's cut you gotta get it off the ground quickly or the rot moves in.
The second is hackberry for sure and a nice one at that. Nothing else looks like hackberry. Good stuff, I've burned a bunch this year and I have lots more ready for next year. With hackberry once it's cut you gotta get it off the ground quickly or the rot moves in.
We need more pics of the first tree. If you can show the twigs that would be very helpful. There are lots of trees that have bark similar to that tree, and Ash is one of them.
The second tree is Hackberry. There is nothing quite like Hackberry.
The second tree is Hackberry. There is nothing quite like Hackberry.
blazincajun
Burning Hunk
First example looks like green ash. The second one is in the same genus as hackberry. Once it leafs out, if you allow it, then you will know for sure whether it is hackberry or sugarberry. Probably the latter in your area. Hackberry leaves are more rounded (ovate to elliptic-ovate) and sugarberry leaves are more lance like (lanceolate to narrowly ovate). Both leaf examples edges are serrated. Saw a notation in Radford that there is a Mississippi version of sugarberry named Celtis mississippiensis .
Does ash smooth out towards the top?
This one, if ash, looks kinda like a white oak up there.
I see opposite branching in spots but not all over.
This one, if ash, looks kinda like a white oak up there.
I see opposite branching in spots but not all over.
Yea I burned some of this earlier in the year. A limb had broken out of one and the wood was dry. Burned about like a maple or cherry
Ralphie Boy
Minister of Fire
Yeah, I think Jags may be correct about the cottonwood. I was just down along the bottom by the creek where there are several cottonwoods growing and it looks right for a younger cottonwood.
The bark is too deeply furrowed to be an ash of that size (IMO). Pattern is wrong, also.
It's down by a small branch so it may be one. I'm starting to think I don't have any ash trees. Have yet to find one.
If I saw the first one in my woods - I'd think tulip poplar....but I can't see much of the tree. If it was tulip poplar, it would likely have a tall straight trunk with no branching until further up, and you'd be able to see the remnants of last years "tulips" up in the top...light brown in color - at the ends of the twigs.
bigbarf48
Minister of Fire
BillinTX
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Don't think it's a persimmon. I've got several of those on the land. The deer love Em
I read Persimmon is in the Ebony family.
Im gonna say NO to any type of Ash on the top pic. If you are gonna cut it down anyway, look at the very end of the twigs for the opposite leaf buds. Or if the tree has been dead for a while, the leaf scars. See if they are opposite.
Im gonna say NO to any type of Ash on the top pic. If you are gonna cut it down anyway, look at the very end of the twigs for the opposite leaf buds. Or if the tree has been dead for a while, the leaf scars. See if they are opposite.
ArsenalDon
Minister of Fire
Look, on the top one....if it is Cottonwood it will sound a bit hollow as you thump on it. When it is spring it will shed "cotton" like buds that will float around the air.
Mischa Shashumshkavich
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....i've been trying to i.d. some wood i got last year during the end of winter(part of a tree), and at first thought it was chestnut oak from a leaf i found under the tree...but went back recently and took some samples of leaves right from the tree and the closest thing i can find is hackberry.....the bark is almost like shagbark,but with tints of orange lines in it....when split,there is an inner ring between the bark and wood that is thick and bright yellow....and when i burned the scraps of bark in the outdoor woodstove, it had a very bitter smell.....could it be hackberry? if not any ideas on what it is?
I went back and looked at #1 since this thread is back up. Definitely oak leaves. Didn't have my phone but I'll get some pics
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