Does anyone have info on the Pacific Energy Neostone 2.5 or Newcastle 2.5?

[williaty]

There's two new stoves on Pacific Energy's website since the last time I looked, both of which look interesting to me. The marking-speak makes it sound like they're the firebox from the Neo 2.5 stove with new shells wrapped around it, but they don't make it clear. The Neostone seems to be the Neo with soapstone sides and tops while the Newcastle seems to be the Neo with cast iron sides and tops. They only have one picture of each stove. I tried to contact PE but found they're closed from Dec 16th to Jan 6th.

Do any of you guys have more info about them?

 

[skinanbones]

That's exactly what they are, just differant cladding on the Neo 2.5. The Newcastle is a interesting looking stove, but not very much can be removed and it's a heavy stove.

 

[williaty]

Does the Neo 2.5 firebox get used in any older stoves that there might be more reviews for?

 

[skinanbones]

Sorry nope the Neo 2.5 firebox is a brand new design that is based of the super 27. What we have found is that it is a little bit slower is the draft compartment. It take a bit longer than a super 27 to start up and if your draft isn't that great it can spill smoke easier. Other than that it heats great and looks awesome in just about any home

 

[thechimneysweep]

PE announced the Newcastle 1.6 and 2.5 models back in October, but several factors (including record sales of their established models) have pushed production back. Presently, they're predicting full availability in the US marketplace around March or April.
The Newcastles are built around PE's Neo 1.6 and 2.5 fireboxes, but have cast iron shells and swing-out trivet tops similar to the Alderlea models.

MSRP for the 1.6 is $3,000.00 in matte black, $3,400.00 in ebony, majolica brown or antique white porcelain.
MSRP for the 2.5 is $3,500.00 in matte black, $3,900.00 for the same porcelain options.

 

[yukon]

Does the Neo 2.5 firebox get used in any older stoves that there might be more reviews for?

Yes. i bought one in fall of 2014. my only complaint right now is the smoke that spews into the room every time I reload the fire. I have well seasoned wood, crack a window open beside the insert, shut the fan off, open the door very slowly. The installer says i have a good draft.
Is anyone else having this issue. Very disappointing as i have just finished building a wood shed and have wood cut for next year. We have a small bungalow and the wife wants to get rid of it asap as our clothes are starting to smell like wood smoke. HELP!

 

[edyit]

are you reloading it while it's still burning? with my particular set up i wait until the wood has hit the coaling stage and is no longer putting off any smoke before i reload.

 

[thechimneysweep]

I'm seeing conflicting reports here. You say your installer says you have good draft, but your description of smoke entering the room says you don't.

We often hear the complaint that someone has a "bad" stove or fireplace because it smokes into the house. In our experience, however, draft problems are almost never caused by the fireplace or appliance. The chimney is the engine of every wood-burning system: in order for the fire to burn properly, the chimney must pull combustion air through the fireplace or stove. You can view some common causes of chimney draft problems and possible solutions in our online Sweep's Library at .(broken link removed to http://www.chimneysweeponline.com/hodraft.htm).

 

[Heftiger]

Yes. i bought one in fall of 2014. my only complaint right now is the smoke that spews into the room every time I reload the fire. I have well seasoned wood, crack a window open beside the insert, shut the fan off, open the door very slowly. The installer says i have a good draft.
Is anyone else having this issue. Very disappointing as i have just finished building a wood shed and have wood cut for next year. We have a small bungalow and the wife wants to get rid of it asap as our clothes are starting to smell like wood smoke. HELP!

What did the installer do to determine that you had good draft? If he's anything like my local shop, I suspect he looked at it and said "yup, that should be good"...

 

[begreen]

Yes. i bought one in fall of 2014. my only complaint right now is the smoke that spews into the room every time I reload the fire. I have well seasoned wood, crack a window open beside the insert, shut the fan off, open the door very slowly. The installer says i have a good draft.

I agree with Tom, was the draft measured? Have you always had this issue or has it gotten worse?

Can you describe the whole flue system from stove to the chimney cap. Include height, tee and elbows if there are any.

 

[Mnpole]

PE announced the Newcastle 1.6 and 2.5 models back in October, but several factors (including record sales of their established models) have pushed production back. Presently, they're predicting full availability in the US marketplace around March or April.
The Newcastles are built around PE's Neo 1.6 and 2.5 fireboxes, but have cast iron shells and swing-out trivet tops similar to the Alderlea models.
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MSRP for the 1.6 is $3,000.00 in matte black, $3,400.00 in ebony, majolica brown or antique white porcelain.
MSRP for the 2.5 is $3,500.00 in matte black, $3,900.00 for the same porcelain options.

Got a Neo 1.6, get yourself a Jotul F 50.

 

[troy-pit]

Any current info on whether the newcastle is being sold now. Would the cast iron be that much of an advantage over the pacific energy neo stoves.

 

[thechimneysweep]

I called this morning, and both the Newcastle 1.6 and 2.5 are currently available to us by special order (takes about 4 weeks). Pricing is as shown above. While it might be argued that the higher-density cast iron shell on the Newcastle might be a little gentler to sit near than the plate steel shell on the Neo, the major advantages of the Newcastle are the swivel trivet top and the appearance of cast iron, if that appeals to you.

 

[BeachBumm]

I agree with Tom, was the draft measured? Have you always had this issue or has it gotten worse?

Begreen, How does one 'measure the draft' of a chimney?

 

[edyit]

draft is measured using a manometer

http://www.sensorsmag.com/components/manometer-basics

 

[begreen]

Begreen, How does one 'measure the draft' of a chimney?

With a manometer or a magnehelic gauge. A tube is inserted into a hole in the stovepipe and the vacuum in the chimney is then measured.

 

[BeachBumm]

With a manometer or a magnehelic gauge. A tube is inserted into a hole in the stovepipe and the vacuum in the chimney is then measured.

Thanks. Are their professionals out there who come out and measure chimney drafts? If not, how does the average homeowner accomplish this?

 

[begreen]

Yes, BK stoves can pretty particular about draft so I would expect a good BK dealership to have the simple equipment to measure this. Otherwise this equipment can be picked up on eBay. You want something that measures in a low range, like from 0 to .25WC.