Drolet 1400 insert -- round cutout and chimney clean

[mj5001]

I have this insert unpacked and there is a round piece of steel that is loose that mimics the outlet size just laying below the cutout. My first instinct was to remove it but I can't get it out. It just lays on the fiberglass (or whatever that stuff is) that's on top of the baffle.

Is isn't mentioned in the manual -- what's the deal with this thing? I suppose it could act as a plate to catch creosote drippings?

Another thing --

Didn't think of this before buying the insert but how in the heck can I do an annual chimney cleaning without a lot of grief? Moving the insert out a little won't be a problem but I can see that it's going to be a tight fit from the liner/stove adapter.

Certainly you don't just brush so everything just falls back into the insert but I suppose if I clean regularly enough I may have to. ?

 

[wood4free]

I had the same insert for 3 years before selling it and getting a larger insert this year. I can tell you DO NOT remove the cutout piece. That is a weight for the ceramic wool that sits on top of the baffle.

There are instructions in the manual for baffle removal. If I remember, you have to remove the cotter pin from the 1st and 2nd burn tubes. It is a bit tricky, but you have to slide the burn tube to the left before it can be removed. The second burn tube is removed the same way but you may have to push up on it once you slide it to the left. Do not remove the 3rd tube. There is a bracket for the baffle that can be slid forward and then the baffle, ceramic wool and weight can be lowered and removed from the stove. When cleaning the liner top down all the debris falls down into the stove for easy removal.

 

[mj5001]

Hi -- thanks so much.

Makes sense will leave that weight in there -- would have been nice if Drolet pointed that out. Unless there's something I should know about the baffle, it came assembled and installed -- I did see in the instructions where they had assembly instructions for it but maybe have updated since and send them out complete.

Are you referring to maybe taking the baffle out from time to time and clean it or something?

So, just cleaned out a bit of creosote from my SS liner (wasn't to bad) and tomorrow I'll put the insert in.

I need to find an adapter to go from flex to the stove.

When I put on the adapter, do I use any high heat caulk or anything? I noticed on this stove all the mounting holes (5 to choose from) are toward the front --
does that cause a problem with the rear of the adapter not seating well?

Sure is a small lip on the stove where the adapter fits. Drolet's instructions could be more detailed.

 

[wood4free]

I am referring to removing the baffle only when you clean the liner. Otherwise, all the crap will fall onto the top of the ceramic wool blanket and stay there most likely blocking the flue. I removed mine once a year.

The piece you need is call the appliance adapter and must have a metal band (giant hose like clamp) that secures it to the liner. You can get the appliance adapter from Chimney Liner Depot or other suppliers.

My Drolet came with 3 angle brackets in front and I only used 2 of them. All it does is hold the appliance connector securely in place. My liner comes down at a rather steep angle so the appliance connector was also at a slight angle. You can use stove cement around that connection.

 

[mj5001]

Ok thanks -- got it. Thanks for that info on removing the baffle or I wouldn't have known.

 

[mj5001]

Now I know why I had problems a year ago -- bought some 6" stainless steel liner, it's already installed -- just assumed it was 6" but just measured it and it's 6 1/2" outside diameter and probably close to that for the ID because the wall is the standard thickness.

Do I have an oddball? Or not to worry?

If so, please enlighten me -- my luck it may be a discontinued specialty item that existed.

Thanks kindly.

 

[pen]

What was the problem you were having?

 

[mj5001]

answered my own question --

http://www.woodlanddirect.com/Chimn...ney-Champion-Easy-Flex-Chimney-Liner-Kit-65in

guess I'll need a reducer then to go from this to my Drolet insert -- has 6" opening

 

[mj5001]

Using a 6" chimney adapter with 6.5" -- that was the problem.

But that's history isn't it? Now I'm stuck with god damn 6.5" liner and not finding a reducer to go to 6".

I'll now need to couple 6.5 to 6 and then take the small run of 6 to the appliance fitting.

 

[weatherguy]

Does this work
http://www.chimneylinerdepot.com/st...ApplianceStove-Connector-6.5-(F)-7in-(M).html

Maybe call CLD and talk to someone there, they've always been helpful if you have questions.

 

[mj5001]

my stove has a 6" outlet so that wouldn't work -- I emailed them to see if they have anything. Seems to me if I pushed a 6" inside a 6.5" far enough (I mean 5 feet or so) and sealed the gap well with caulk and a pipe clamp, that may work. (if there isn't an adaptor out there of course).

 

[wood4free]

Chimney Liner Depot can custom make an appliance connector for you. It sounds like you need a 6.5" to 6" connector and they will have no trouble fabricating that for you.

 

[stoveguy13]

measure the inside of the liner not the outside a 6 inch outside can measure 6.25-6.5 because of the way they are made i would be surprised if the inside doesn't measure 6 inside

 

[begreen]

All that really matters is whether the appliance adapter can handle 6.5", right?

 

[mj5001]

After screwing around with this, you're right, although I swear it measures 6.5 OD, I took a piece of 6" single wall stove pipe (slip the seams together type) and although it took some doing I was able to push the crimped end of the pipe INTO the stainless liner.

My problem is that my liner is about 11" from where the insert outlet is going to be.

So --

I know it may not be Kosher but I'm afraid I'm forced to do this --

Use the stove pipe into the liner (it's actually a really perfect fit, but I'll put a bit of caulk in there also and use a pipe clamp around it). And then put that stove pipe into a stove adapter -- then into the insert. I've dry fitted everything and it looks perfect but that's what I'm doing. It should work fine.

I know I could couple another piece of liner to what I have and get the appliance adapter but honestly this looks like it will work great.

Should have it running tomorrow morning -- too much football distraction today.

 

[stoveguy13]

I swear it measures 6.5 OD, I took a piece of 6" single wall stove pipe (slip the seams together type) and although it took some doing I was able to push the crimped end of the pipe INTO the stainless liner.

so that means you have a 6 inch liner. your crimps are now going in the wrong direction i would not do it the way you are suggesting.

 

[stoveguy13]

All that really matters is whether the appliance adapter can handle 6.5", right?

yes liners will have different outside diameters but all that really matters is that the adapter fits and takes you the right size