England PDV 25 is not getting enough pellets to stay lit

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Just tried to answer your thread below,assuming this is the same problem, Is the convection blower coming on? Is your air on set at 1?
You might want to trace the large diameter, thermal sensor wire from the control board to the firebox, to be sure none of it's connections were disturbed when you changed the lower auger. You can find a diagram of it's routing on page 22 of your manual.
 
The blower is coming on and the air is set at 1. Do you mean the the white wire that is connected to the front of the stove thats wrapped in thermal wrap? I am sure that it wasnt disturbed. the only thing that I have noticed is that the vacuum switch for the top auger motor seems to click alot. I mean the switch that connects to the Door Ajar vacuum port.. Im thinking that I must have disturbed something when I repaired it. I just dont know what I disturbed.
 
Yes that is the correct wire. I don't know enough about the vacuum switches operation to answer, but I'd temporarily bypass it to see if it is the problem.
 
Your saying you would bypass the white wire? How do you do that? The stove seems like its running way to hot.

Or are you saying you would bypass the vacuum?

Thanks.
 
I definitely would NOT bypass anything if the stove is running too hot ! At this point I'd wait until Monday AM and give ESW a call or hopefully someone here else chimes in with a better solution.
 
No I wont do anything unless I am sure of it. I dont want to make things worse. I will be calling ESW on Monday I just hope that they can help.

Thanks for your help.
 
Magnarider, I'm a bit confused. Your first post said that the stove wouldn't stay lit, then you said it was too hot. There are a lot of ESW owners here who, I'm sure, can help. Maybe a bit more information on the operation?
 
Is your convection blower set to a higher number than the burn rate?
 
OK....

Try this......

Perform a control board reset as follows .....

Do this when the stove is cold.

Unplug the stove from the power outlet.

Plug the power lead back in.

You must press and hold the bottom 3 buttons all at the same time within 4 seconds and wait 3 seconds and then release buttons.

Wait 5 - 10 seconds for the F5 readout display to go blank.

Unplug power lead - wait 5 seconds

Set the Heat Mode.
Not sure what the default Heat Mode is for the 25-PDV, so try it in 'd' mode, follow the directions below to set the Heat Mode.

Plug power lead back in and press both the up and down blower speed buttons at the same time within 4 - 5 seconds, you should now see a letter (A, b, c or d) in the left digital display under heat range, you need to change this to 'd' or 'c' using the up / down buttons below that readout, once set to 'd' or 'c' wait 10 - 15 seconds then unplug the power again and wait 5 seconds. (Sometimes the mode that you want does not set and defaults back to the mode that it was in before, repeat this step to make sure the mode that you want is set.)

Plug power back in, then set the lower three (3) buttons to read 6 5 1 from left to right.

Clean out the stove and reload with pellets and fire it up. Set the heat range to 2. Set the blower speed to 3 or 4 and then leave the stove alone for 60 - 90 minutes. After 60 - 90 minutes have passed, set the heat and blower to the numbers that you want.


Let us know how it goes once you have done the above.
 
I have just done as Cladmaster said and now im waiting. The thing was the stove would light but then the pellets were burning so quick that it wasnt pushing out enough pellets and the fire would burn out sometimes giving me an E-2 reading which isnt right because it lights just fine.

The stove was working fine until the auger motor went bad and so I took it apart to replace the auger motor. While I had it apart I decided to clean the combustion motor and put a new gasket in. I cleaned the room air blower replaced a vacuum hose that was getting brittle. New auger gaskets and auger motor. New door gasket and glass gasket. I also gave it a really good cleaning inside and out.

When I got it put back together it was acting like this. Before the motor went gad it was burning just fine aside from the bad motor. I am stumped as to what has changed or went wrong.

Thanks for your help lets see what happens.
 
The vacuum switch on connected to the fire box can inhibit pellet delivery. I think that you have a leak in the tube leading from the fire box to the switch.

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Magnarider said:
you mean the one by the igniter? It looks good the only that was hard was the one on the combustion motor
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A partial leak on the one connected to the fire box would cause the upper auger to intermittently stop. The same could happen with a damaged connection on the auger motor.

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Also the connections on the vacuum switch.
 
Magnarider said:
I have just done as Cladmaster said and now im waiting. The thing was the stove would light but then the pellets were burning so quick that it wasnt pushing out enough pellets and the fire would burn out sometimes giving me an E-2 reading which isnt right because it lights just fine.

The stove was working fine until the auger motor went bad and so I took it apart to replace the auger motor. While I had it apart I decided to clean the combustion motor and put a new gasket in. I cleaned the room air blower replaced a vacuum hose that was getting brittle. New auger gaskets and auger motor. New door gasket and glass gasket. I also gave it a really good cleaning inside and out.

When I got it put back together it was acting like this. Before the motor went gad it was burning just fine aside from the bad motor. I am stumped as to what has changed or went wrong.

Thanks for your help lets see what happens.
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Just throwing this out. Your stove ran fine until you replaced the auger motor? Could it be possible that the motor you put in does not have the same rotational speed as the one you took out?
 
The motors same to be the same and I am sure that the hoses have been inspected and looked over well. I did as cladmaster said and did a master reset of the control board but now I think that it might be burning to slow still waiting to see what happens. I set it to d and that has made a difference.
 
Put the stove on 5 for heat and 6 for the blower, leave all the other settings as they are. It will take about 15 - 20 mins for the stove to start to get hot.

What brand of pellets you using ?
 
Magnarider said:
The motors same to be the same and I am sure that the hoses have been inspected and looked over well. I did as cladmaster said and did a master reset of the control board but now I think that it might be burning to slow still waiting to see what happens. I set it to d and that has made a difference.
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Ok, I know I have read that some people have replaced the motors only to find they feed too fast or slow. As an outsider, I just look at the big picture. It just seems to me that everything is working fine, but you're not getting enough pellets in the pot. You can time your motor by watching it turn and time the revolutions per minute. On mine, I have to hold the manual feed to keep the motor running long enough to time it.

Upping your feed rate will increase the dwell time of the motor resulting in more pellets. If that works, but the stove is still not running good enough tells me the motor is wrong.
 
It's possible that the motor is wrong, but if it was ordered from ESW it should be the correct one, but, it could also be a faulty one, so a call to ESW might be needed.

Mike from ESW will chime in when he see's this thread.
 
CladMaster said:
It's possible that the motor is wrong, but if it was ordered from ESW it should be the correct one, but, it could also be a faulty one, so a call to ESW might be needed.

Mike from ESW will chime in when he see's this thread.
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Oh yeah he will. I'll be watching to see what he says :-)
 
Im using Premium Wood Pellet Fuel from Tractor Supply Company, but its the same pellets that I was using before the breakdown.

I oredered the motor from ESW.

Cladmaster the stove has not improved I thought that it was improving but once it caught fire it just burned through everything way to fast. How do I increase the feed rate? As of right now I am letting go into shutdown mode and then I will try a master reset again and change it to a c setting this time. I could also check the motor RPMs What am I looking for with the motor RPMs How long it takes for it to revolve?
 
Magnarider said:
Im using Premium Wood Pellet Fuel from Tractor Supply Company, but its the same pellets that I was using before the breakdown.

I oredered the motor from ESW.

Cladmaster the stove has not improved I thought that it was improving but once it caught fire it just burned through everything way to fast. How do I increase the feed rate? As of right now I am letting go into shutdown mode and then I will try a master reset again and change it to a c setting this time. I could also check the motor RPMs What am I looking for with the motor RPMs How long it takes for it to revolve?
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Ah, the fuel is not good, these are MWP pellets and burn dirty and too fast, low density and low heat output.

Put the stove into 'c' mode, set the 3 lower buttons to 5 6 1.

Fire up the stove with heat set to 5 and blower set to 6.

Report back here, let us know how it's going.
 
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