Englander, 25pvdc, Questions on "Normal" Operation...

[TookyOverlook]

Hello!

So im new to this pellet stove, and well I have some questions, hopefully someone else with one can answer.....

everytime i google search i get some info, but mostly from this forum..

Alright, so first thing, The stove sounds like a Diesel truck rumbling some times? It is hooked up with outside air, and sealed exhaust (no leaks) dosent seem to effect operation but just startles the dog... Bigger the flame more frequent the noise.... I read somewhere it was normal?? Maby so... ?

Second is

Is there a way to adjust burn air to help with ash buildup and glass ash buildup?? My whitfield used to have a damper, this one dosent?? any ideas?

Thanks all!

i did a quick search and didnt find anything, so if there is a thread could you link it to me????

 

[Dgopetactical]

These stoves are noisy but the diesel truck thing I have not experienced that yet. Now when I get a big flame I will hear a fluttering sound but that is mostly when it's very windy out.

You can adjust the burn air with the bottom middle button, but if you raise the burn air then the efficiency will be effected, I don't recommend that,.

I deal with the dirty glass issues also, i noticed it varies by brand of pellet, I can have anything from a mild haze (hamer's)to hazy tar (stove chow )in 24 hr. I have read a lot of posts with issues with dirty glass with this stove.

 

[TookyOverlook]

Thanks for the reply.. I have talked to englander already, due to when i first got it home, even on setting one, it would drive you out of the house, it was soo hot.. turned out the feed plate in the hoper had moved to WIDE open, ha ha.. after a fine adjustment there, and turning down my feed rate from 6 to four. it burns good, i do play with the feed rate, and have got that pretty tuned in ...

The diesel noise i guess could be better described as a low rumble... its really weird.. but the dog will just have to get used to it.. or lay somewhere else..

other than that its been great, I think i may order a spare auger motor, as all i have found is the motors go bad, and if thats its biggest flaw.. Ill take it!!

And anymore input would be awesome too, never know if someone has had a fix for it.. THANKS!!

 

[BrotherBart]

For what it's worth, mine does it too. The cat sleeps right through it. I have always written it off to it having to crunch large pellets.

 

[TookyOverlook]

That's worth something there, makes me feel better about mine. I did turn the air feed up one number and it hasn't made the noise sense, and it's cranking along so who knows ???? Ha ha

 

[slvrblkk]

FYI...if it's a "rumbling" noise:

1. fire the stove and get it hot so that it starts rumbling
2. disconnect the OAK if installed
3. take a patch of silver insulation tape ,and cover approx. 1/4 of the intake pipe, then wait and see if rumble goes away, if not , adjust the tape to cover slightly more.

somewhere between 1/4 and 1/3 covered the rumble should stop and the stove should burn clean , too much covered it could burn dirty and would need to be backed off some to allow enough through to burn clean.

4. once the rumble has been cured with OAK fold the edge of the tape around the outside of the intake pipe and attach the oak back over it, if no OAK just fold the tape around the intake.

the fluctuation happens due to some kind of air variance , i think its hot air pulling cold air and differential air flow in the exhaust blower itself. it does not harm the stove but it can be annoying. most commonly it happens in chimney type installs but can in vent kits as well. ive used the tape trick for years and it always works.

 

[titanracer]

Thanks for the reply.. I have talked to englander already, due to when i first got it home, even on setting one, it would drive you out of the house, it was soo hot.. turned out the feed plate in the hoper had moved to WIDE open, ha ha.. after a fine adjustment there, and turning down my feed rate from 6 to four. it burns good, i do play with the feed rate, and have got that pretty tuned in ...

The diesel noise i guess could be better described as a low rumble... its really weird.. but the dog will just have to get used to it.. or lay somewhere else..

other than that its been great, I think i may order a spare auger motor, as all i have found is the motors go bad, and if thats its biggest flaw.. Ill take it!!

And anymore input would be awesome too, never know if someone has had a fix for it.. THANKS!!

I have used this stove for about 7 seasons of burning & it has been a great little stove & served it's purpose real nicely. Only down fall is, it does require alittle more daily maintance to keep the stove burning efficently. I have played with about every setting to find out how this stove works. Just make sure you keep track & write down your factory setting or start point setings, so if & when you get lost, you have a starting point to fall back to. I see you have found out about your feed plate slidable adjustment inside your hopper. Just keep in the back of your mind incase you have any future problems with bridging of pellets (pellets not dropping into auger area do to length of some pellets), you may have to open this back up some. Some brands of pellets are longer then others & will bridge at this area. I played with the bottom 3 button settings alot for different brand of pellets. Mostly it was the 1st 2 buttons, low fuel feed & low air burn. Just keep your factory setting wrote down for a starting point, if you get lost. The low fuel feed button, I normally adjust for length of pellets and or hardness of pellet. The shorter in length of pellet, the faster they will feed thru unit. By lowering that number, it will slow down the feed of pellets. Raising the number will increase the feed of pellets. Longer length pellets require a little higher number. They will take longer to feed thru unit. Shorter length pellets, you may have to lower the number to slow down the pellets. If they are a hard pellet, you may need to slow feed or raise the low air burn number to icrease air flow. Harder pellets seem to take more air to fully burn. These settings all works togehter with your low air burn adjustment button. Harder pellets, more air. Higher feed rate of pellets feeding into unit, more air. Just don't forget where you starting point is at, so you can always return & start again. I actually write down every brand of pellet I have burned, with a setting that seemed to work. That way if I would run across that brand of pellet again, I would have a good starting point to start with. It was a challange and I like challanges, but I feel I have learned alot on how this stove works and making those fine tuned adjustments to keep it running efficent on whatever pellet I burn. There has been a quite of few pellet brands I do stay away from. Just could get a happy medium on burning them. But that same brand may burn wonderful for another stove brand, but just not in mine.

 

[TookyOverlook]

Titanracer

Thanks for your input. First thing Travis from englander told me to do was write down the factory settings! I must say they were very helpful do far.

I have increased my burn air and lowered my feed rate both by one number to burn New England wood pellets and have had good results with that. (5-5-1) No big clinkers and just fine ash. This setting also reduced my rumbling noise. And as slvrblkk said above regarding the noise mine is in a chimney install. With a fresh air vent. The fresh air vent made a huge diffrence in burn quality .... I just picked up a couple bags of tractor supply branded pellets to try. So the fine setter war will commence again soon. As I'm looking to see what pellets are the best bang for the buck! From what I can tell the retailer only told me not to use the pellets wal-mart carries as that's the only time he's seen damaged augers and motors.

Thanks again for everyone's input on my learning curve! And I welcome any Input!

 

[cheap4heat]

Titanracer

Thanks for your input. First thing Travis from englander told me to do was write down the factory settings! I must say they were very helpful do far.

I have increased my burn air and lowered my feed rate both by one number to burn New England wood pellets and have had good results with that. (5-5-1) No big clinkers and just fine ash. This setting also reduced my rumbling noise. And as slvrblkk said above regarding the noise mine is in a chimney install. With a fresh air vent. The fresh air vent made a huge diffrence in burn quality .... I just picked up a couple bags of tractor supply branded pellets to try. So the fine setter war will commence again soon. As I'm looking to see what pellets are the best bang for the buck! From what I can tell the retailer only told me not to use the pellets wal-mart carries as that's the only time he's seen damaged augers and motors.

Thanks again for everyone's input on my learning curve! And I welcome any Input!

hey titan racer any luck with thoughs tractor supply brand pellets?

 

[stoveguy2esw]

Titanracer

Thanks for your input. First thing Travis from englander told me to do was write down the factory settings! I must say they were very helpful do far.

I have increased my burn air and lowered my feed rate both by one number to burn New England wood pellets and have had good results with that. (5-5-1) No big clinkers and just fine ash. This setting also reduced my rumbling noise. And as slvrblkk said above regarding the noise mine is in a chimney install. With a fresh air vent. The fresh air vent made a huge diffrence in burn quality .... I just picked up a couple bags of tractor supply branded pellets to try. So the fine setter war will commence again soon. As I'm looking to see what pellets are the best bang for the buck! From what I can tell the retailer only told me not to use the pellets wal-mart carries as that's the only time he's seen damaged augers and motors.

Thanks again for everyone's input on my learning curve! And I welcome any Input!

good to hear Travis is one of my star pupils. does a great job with customers, guy is a big teddy bear, he'd probably surprise you if you saw him, guy looks like Kimbo Slice but is as pleasant a fellow as you would ever meet, especially now with a new baby at home. he's a great guy.

as for the rumble , silvrblkk hit it right on the head, pressure fluxuation put the tape "speed bump" in the intake and it will go away