Englander camp stove 12 csm

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New Member
Dec 10, 2021
I would like to install an englander survivor black bear stove 12 csm in our hunting cabin. It’s a shack not insulated or finished etc. the stove takes 4” pipe.

I want to do a through the wall install. I know this is not the best scenario and it should go vertical through the roof.

My question is what type of 4” pipe should I use? Very slim pickings of 4” single wall pipe.
Can I use pellet stove pipe?

Or can I install an increaser 4” to 6” and use 6” stove pipe? How much will this affect the stove draft by increasing pipe size and having the 2 90 degree bends?

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.


Staff member
Nov 18, 2005
South Puget Sound, WA
Pellet stove pipe is not appropriate. Selkirk UltraTemp has a line of 4" high-temp chimney and all the fittings.