Dog House said:
mine ended up being a ignitor clint,took me 12$ worth of fuses to solve it ,thx mike for leading me in the right direction...
no problem wish i could have caught you sooner , diagnostic function would have cost 1 fuse, and had you up and running
as for the trouble shooting phone number i called it for 2 days never could get thru,rang busy all the time between buisness hrs i called every 5 min,busy,busy,busy...no offense mike but i dont know if i would buy another englander or not with that kind of outcome,that tells me theres alot of trouble with these stoves if i cant get thru on the troubleshooting line,[/quote]
here is how to get to me directly (or at least my voice mail) in which case if you leave a return number i can call you back , call the parts line 800-516-3636 as soon as the recording starts , press 131. my extension. saves the wait on hold and also will get me when the CS line is ringing busy.
now as for the line being busy , we are working on it , our phone system usually doesnt do that , for the last 3-4 weeks its been only accepting 23 callers and ringing busy after that , we build and sell 25-35 thousand units a year, hard to support with only 23 lines. we are actively working on that problem with our phone provider (im about ready to shoot a couple of them, might get results from the ones i miss)tie that in with the usual "thundering herd" who forget their stoves until winter hits, along with the calls about installations, accessories, need a piece of pipe for their pellet stove , "how close can i get to a window?" "do i really need outside air with my pellet stove?" "whats the BTU output of this unit?" i could go on and on. now factor in the folks with older units needing a part, not knowing what they need, all the tech calls on units up to 30 years old at 15 to 35 thousand sold a year , all coming through my office and my phone system is fragged up?
remember too, that the calls coming in are actually mostly not warranty issues , but calls where joe homeowner's stove aint working and he dont know why, my techs have to diagnose the problem then send him to parts if necssary or help him fix it over the phone. my policy is take the calls and fix the unit , i DO NOT place warranty calls over other calls as the same techs handle both.
its not a high percentage of warranty issues, quite the contrary, but the sheer volume thats out there. tie that in to a phone system giving me trouble not letting the full volume in and you have a mess. it shopuld get better in the very near future, today the average wait time for tech support was 12 minutes, thats pretty dang good considering the volume, and remember this , when you have one of my techs on the phone , he better damned well not hang up til the problem is solved, i'll hang him on my barn door if he does. so calls take a while, my average call is probably about 15-18 minutes, but i have been on the phone with the same customer for over an hour, because i gotta help him fix his stove.
but i did get thru to order my parts no problem,any really i do appreciate the online help here,thanks again im out of the dog house for now,lol[/quote]
sory for venting , guess its the crown talking, i believe strongly in my methods, it may not be quick , but by god by the time you hang up , you will either be fixed or the parts needed to fix you will be on the way