EPA looking to delay 2020 Emission Regulations

lampmfg Posted By lampmfg, Apr 30, 2018 at 12:53 PM

  1. brenndatomu

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    I guess this is all it takes to get some traffic 'round here in the summertime...a lil discussion about the EPA, stoves, and hotrods!
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    Add some pictures of the ladys and it would be flat out:cool:
     
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  3. Seasoned Oak

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  4. Ashful

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    Graphs like this need to come with a disclaimer. Of course China and South Korea emissions are way up, they’ve both boomed from peasant agricultural economies to major world powers, over the last two decades. And of course our decrease is larger than other countries whose footprint was never but a small fraction of our own, to begin with.

    The one that surprises me is the EU. There must be more to that story, as the Europeans have been really at the forefront of emissions reduction efforts.

    The graph needs to be scaled according to GNP or some other suitable figure of merit, to really make any sense of it.
     
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  5. lampmfg

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    Do have a link to what is legal or clean enough for your state? Thanks,
     
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    https://ecology.wa.gov/Air-Climate/Air-quality/Smoke-fire/wood-stove-info

    This page has the information but the site won't let me click through to the list. There were a couple of boilers (garn, etc.) but no furnaces clean enough.

    I'll keep looking. Seems WA likes to regulate based on GPH and the rest of the furnace world likes a different method.
     
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  7. Highbeam

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    When using my phone I can click through and find only four wood fired furnaces meeting WA standards and the Kuma is not on the list. I don't know what it takes to be accepted but Kuma hasn't done it.
     
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  8. Ashful

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    Hey... stop trying to steer our thread away from hotrods and classic cars!
     
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  9. lampmfg

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    I read the criteria and their approved list.

    https://ecology.wa.gov/DOE/files/1c/1cd08b6c-a609-4a70-b861-5d75a3ed547c.pdf

    We are much cleaner than any of them and are in the process of reaching out to make sure we get added to this. Unfortunate that we even have to do that when the list has been on the EPA site for nearly a year.

    https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2017-04/usepa-certified-forced-air-furnace-list.xlsx
     
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  10. Highbeam

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    When mr lamp himself speaks up, in his thread, I am happy to momentarily get back on topic!

    Looks like Washington does respect the wonky emissions rate per unit energy of the furnace world but maybe requires softwood?
     
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  11. Highbeam

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    As we’ve known for decades, the federal epa requirement is a minimum. Washington can and has required something cleaner for stoves as well.

    Thank you for trying to get on the list.
     
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  12. lampmfg

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    No clue, we are waiting to hear back from them.
     
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  13. brenndatomu

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    What's really scary is that the FC1000 is on the WA. approved list! Anybody that followed that poor guys saga that bought one here this past winter knows what a scary, creosote makin, public health and fire hazard those things are! !!!
     
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  14. Highbeam

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    I looked over the fire chief offerings today since they qualify for Washington. I am optimistic that we should have access to all furnaces that meet the 2015 regs just as soon as the manufacturer jumps through some hoops. The nc30 is pretty good for a stove but I need more power for heating up the workshop intermittently.
     
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    I think I found the prototype FC1000 during the design phase.

     
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    The EPA approves this message.
     
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