Extending out with wood burning insert going in

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gbpg

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We're going to be putting up 2x4 and metal studs in front of the old stone veneer to have the fireplace stick out rather than be flush with the wall. This is a real fireplace that was rebuilt after a tornado took half of it out. Previous owner hooked up a propane tank to gas logs but was originally a wood fireplace. My question is, if we extend it out, is this a problem with a wood burning insert in regards to the gap above and the two sides from heat getting between the new fireplace exterior and previous stone veneer? There will be a granite hearth below it. I'm not very good at explaining so hopefully you get what I'm saying. The total extension out will be approx 6".

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bholler

Chimney sweep
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Jan 14, 2014
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central pa
We're going to be putting up 2x4 and metal studs in front of the old stone veneer to have the fireplace stick out rather than be flush with the wall. This is a real fireplace that was rebuilt after a tornado took half of it out. Previous owner hooked up a propane tank to gas logs but was originally a wood fireplace. My question is, if we extend it out, is this a problem with a wood burning insert in regards to the gap above and the two sides from heat getting between the new fireplace exterior and previous stone veneer? There will be a granite hearth below it. I'm not very good at explaining so hopefully you get what I'm saying. The total extension out will be approx 6".

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It needs to be extended with masonry. But doing this may make hooking the liner up to the insert very difficult
 

gbpg

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It needs to be extended with masonry. But doing this may make hooking the liner up to the insert very difficult
The old fireplace extended about 12” into the living but was cut out so the bricks will have a solid footing. My next dumb question is fire brick or regular brick?
 

EbS-P

Minister of Fire
Jan 19, 2019
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SE North Carolina
The old fireplace extended about 12” into the living but was cut out so the bricks will have a solid footing. My next dumb question is fire brick or regular brick?
The effort time and cost with this project I think you will be money time and effort ahead to chose a location to install a free standing stove just my thoughts.
 
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gbpg

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Jan 18, 2022
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The effort time and cost with this project I think you will be money time and effort ahead to chose a location to install a free standing stove just my thoughts.
I’ve found an insert that will fit in the current firebox https://www.regency-fire.com/en/Products/Wood/Wood-Inserts/I1500 but it says the min depth is 13-3/4” and my firebox is 15” at it’s shallowest based on the height of this one. Can I not just use metal studs to go up against the brick (if I remove the stone) and then only the surround would be outside the firebox? Doing it this way would only extend the fireplace 2” with metal studs surrounding the insert. Then I could possibly use some metal trim to hide the gap of the surround to the fireplace stone exterior.

I’m already at a point of no return. Here’s some pics with a picture of the chimney.

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gbpg

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Jan 18, 2022
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I was searching the forum and read a thread where someone removed the back bricks to increase the depth. Behind the stone veneer on the interior fireplace is bricks but on the outside of the home the chimney is made of cinderblocks. Is this something I could do then just reface the the fireplace with a stone veneer I think looks better?
 

bholler

Chimney sweep
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Jan 14, 2014
29,088
central pa
I was searching the forum and read a thread where someone removed the back bricks to increase the depth. Behind the stone veneer on the interior fireplace is bricks but on the outside of the home the chimney is made of cinderblocks. Could I also remove do this?
Yes you could
 

FramerJ

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Mar 18, 2021
60
Missouri
I was searching the forum and read a thread where someone removed the back bricks to increase the depth. Behind the stone veneer on the interior fireplace is bricks but on the outside of the home the chimney is made of cinderblocks. Is this something I could do then just reface the the fireplace with a stone veneer I think looks better?
I had the top two rows of firebrick in the back of my firebox removed so my insert would fit. The damper will most likely have to be removed as well.