Fire Chief or Shelter EPA stoves feedback

Mrpelletburner Posted By Mrpelletburner, Feb 9, 2018 at 9:01 AM

  1. Mrpelletburner

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    While researching new EPA rated stoves, I could not locate much info regarding the new Fire Chief / Shelter EPA rated stoves. Hope this thread becomes a place where FC/S owners can post their experience setup.

    Perhaps someone that had an older version and has since upgraded, could provide feedback regarding burn times and wood consumption? Was the upgrade worth it?

    Once my FC1000 arrives, I will be sharing my feedback.
     
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    So got to thinking today....

    My current setup has knobs to control the draft (heat output of stove, old Hunstman stove). On the EPA rated Fire Chief the flap is fixed to 3/8” open and is not adjustable. So my question is... How do you control the heat output? Does the stove produce the same heat on a 0deg day and a 35deg day? If so, how do you stop the furnace from baking you out of the house?


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    Update 2-18-18

    Assembled the stove tonight and ran into a couple of issues.

    First, the thermostat control box had he back plate mounted upside down (see attached photos).

    Second, the draft blower was wired from the top, not the bottom (see attached photos).

    Perhaps they are still working out the bugs?

    First fire... The stove is going to burn off a lot of oil, if possible fire up the stove outside. Tons of smoke.

    So far, I am not sure of the draft blower does anything. It runs, but doesn’t seem to kick the fire up. Opening the draft door does more for cranking the heat quickly.

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  4. Medic21

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    1st thing. This stove will not burn properly without a good bed of hot coals. You will find that the stack temps drop drastically between calls for heat. The following procedure for lighting it is what I have found works best:

    lots of kindling. And 5-6 pieces of small, 3-4" splits or rounds. This is the best way I have found to establish a bed of coals. Light th fire and add the small pieces a couple at a time. I uasually have the ash door open and close the load door in between adding pieces. Watch the flue temps, I let mine get to 450+ and then open the load door with the ash door still open. After all those pieces are charred and burning good I add 3 or four large splits. I still keep the load door open and burn these one at a time till they are burning good. Once I have stackbt mos of 550-600 I can shut the door and let the inducer do its thing. Every once in a while I have to open the door back up, if stack temps fall to 350 it is not established yet. Takes 45min to an hour to do this.

    When I come back to reload I load it and leave the door open till the pieces are charred then close it and walk away. It takes about 15 min.

    Green wood will not light in this on initial starting and the fire box temps are very high for proper operation. 1200 degrees according to fire chief. Until the fire is established and temps are high enough the inducer will not keep the fire burning.
     
  5. Mrpelletburner

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    What are you using to measure the stack temp and where is it located?

    Have you measured what your pulling for a draft?

    I am getting a measurement of 0.06 - 0.08.


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  6. Medic21

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    I'm using a probe thermometer about 18" above the stove. No idea what the draft is. It's enough. I should add the way I start the fire pretty much is the instructions for the stove.
     
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    Wood is seasoned. Now have about a 2” bed of coals with 4 logs on top, all nice and burned. I have a magnet temp gauge (yea I know they are not 100% correct) located to the top left of the door. Opening the bottom draft door, I can get the temp to ~650deg without an issue. After I close the draft door and the fire sits, the temperature reading goes down to 350-500 and stays. If I open the feed door 20mins later, you don’t see a fire, appears to be just very hot black logs.

    Does this sound correct?


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  8. Turd Ferguson

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    You're in my boat. Measure your wood moisture and let us know. Also, did you line your chimney yet?

    Also, your installation was very similar to mine, with stuff being mis-assembled and in bizarre locations.
     
  9. Mrpelletburner

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    Feedback regarding installing the blower/filter box.


    I know the instructions show to mount the blower first, then the filter box. To assist holding the blower in place, I mounted the filter box, minus the top panel. This gave me a shelf to rest the blower on, when attaching. Due to the weight of the blower, I noticed the rear panel appeared to bow out. Therefore I added a small piece of 2” insulation foam under the blower. Last I attached the top panel.

    Hope this help anyone assembling the blower/filter box.


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    Did not line my chimney yet... need to have this snow melt. My flue is a 12x8 clay lined and within spec for a draft. Running without the SS liner and then with will give great feedback regarding what improvement adding a liner does.


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    Other attachment that appears to be locked... IMG_9960.JPG


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  12. Turd Ferguson

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    I will be very curious to hear your results. I hope it does solve the problems that the both of us appear to be experiencing.
     
  13. Medic21

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    With my infrared thermometer I'm 800+ above the door when it's burning properly. It will get a little red at times and the snap on thermometer will read high.

    When the fan is running you should have a nice blue flame at the top of the burn chamber. When it's hot enough you should have a little bit of that blue flame burning the off gassing when you crack open the door when the fan is not running.

    It is a very picky stove. With 1200 degree firebox temps your not hitting that. You need to monitor flue temps.
     
  14. Mrpelletburner

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    Just split 2pcs of wood... moisture meter was 20% and 24%


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