Glass freak out
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Not really. It takes a lot more to break the glass than a 7lb split falling against it. I'm more worried about cracking it while closing it and not noticing the split that is a bit too long.
I don't freak out but I'm not happy when it happens. If it is possible and safe to correct the condition I usually do. Fortunately this is infrequent and only happens when I load E/W.
HDRock
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I have load E/W all the time due to shape of stove. I am scared that the heat that close to the glass will somehow crack it. Also with a flush mount, opening when not red hot embers will let smoke escape. Most times I open it anyway and adjust. Just need to be very carefulwhen opening.
If the concern is glass break, then that should not be the concern. Glass break would happen by forcing wood into the stove by closing the door with pressure of wood against the glass or by hitting the glass with a metal tool that might have slipped while moving wood or coals around.
I don't like burning wood touching the glass because it usually causes a black burn on the glass that needs special attention to clean off. So like BG, if it's possible to move it before that happens, I will make an attempt to do so.
I don't like burning wood touching the glass because it usually causes a black burn on the glass that needs special attention to clean off. So like BG, if it's possible to move it before that happens, I will make an attempt to do so.
I've only had it happen once that I can recall - the noise of of the smack sure made me jump. Not something I often hear, glass or anywhere. Anyway, I'm not overly concerned about it breaking, but then again I think I have two layers on my stove so that give me a (false?) sense of security.
The only time I FREAKED OUT was when the glass slipped out of the front door with a fully loaded and burning firebox in my VC Resolute. It was held in by a couple tiny clips that had worked loose. I jammed some aluminum foil over the missing glass and watched the stove for 8 more hours until it was down to coals!
No . . . glass breakage from a split or round rolling up against it is rare.
Like others I am more annoyed as it often will leave a black smudge. I often move the split.
Like others I am more annoyed as it often will leave a black smudge. I often move the split.
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Sprinter
Minister of Fire
I'll admit that it was a bit disconcerting at first... FWIW, I've never heard of any window breaking here from that. If was a major concern, this forum would be full of bad experiences. They really seem to be very robust.
Charles1981
Minister of Fire
This happens pretty frequently to me. I have plenty of uglies I shove in my stove on a regular basis and they fall and collapse where they want to. Biggest pain is cleaning the black glass but even then it is nothing a little wet newspaper and ash and minimal elbow grease can't take care of.
I am not worried about glass breaking at all unless I try to close the door with force and the edge of a split is wedged up against the glass.
I am not worried about glass breaking at all unless I try to close the door with force and the edge of a split is wedged up against the glass.
Sprinter
Minister of Fire
If you must load EW, that would be the biggest concern. I have had embers fly out sometimes. Can you get an andiron to put in that stove? Maybe that would help.
WriteNoob
Burning Hunk
Does anyone know what they mean, in the adverts by ceramic glass? I mean all glass is a ceramic, technically, but is this stuff some sort of quartz, or something? Just wondering, and it seemed semi-relevant.
DianeB
Feeling the Heat
I have learned to leave well enough alone - sometimes going in to reposition a roll off cause a bunch of hot embers and coal to jump out on the lip of the stove and on to the ember mat. I would rather clean the glass than fuss with getting the hot embers/coals back in the stove
Knots
Minister of Fire
I bought a stove that loads north-south for this reason. Otherwise, I'd never be able to load up the stove and leave the house. The nagging thought would always be in the back of my mind...
brenndatomu
Minister of Fire
Well, with the 1.2 CF firebox of my Defender stove, I load EW often. The splits are pretty small so I wasn't really worried about glass breakage, but when one rolls out against the glass it seems to screw with the airflow through the firebox. That bugs me so I made a "poker" with a slight curve in it (out of 5/16" rod) to move the offender back in place through a very slightly cracked door opening. Actually, I made a full set of mini tools to use with this stove because most of the tools that you can buy were WAY to big/long, felt like I'd be halfway across the living room raking coals.
Anyways, no, glass breakage isn't a huge concern.
Anyways, no, glass breakage isn't a huge concern.
I often wish I had a pair of thin rods at the front to hold in an unruly split. But I don't want to obstruct the view.
Sprinter
Minister of Fire
Wow that's a new one. Hopefully the fire was not running at the time, although the newer stoves at least seem to have 2 panes of glass.
The majority of ceramic glass used in stoves, is either Neoceram, Pyroceram or Robax. As I understand it, mostly the same thing, just made by different brand names. All are high temp glass with with low expansion characteristics.
Wikipedia says: Glass-ceramics are polycrystalline materials produced through controlled crystallization of base glass.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceramic_Glass
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceramic_Glass
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