Going to buy a pellet insert soon advise please.

TLO03 Posted By TLO03, Jun 2, 2019 at 6:32 PM

  1. TLO03

    TLO03
    New Member 2.
    NULL
    

    Mar 3, 2019
    4
    0
    Loc:
    CT
    Hello all , I’ve been researching pellet inserts and stoves since last September when I knew I was going to need supplemental/ main heating source in my newly purchased 3k sqft home . Currently burning propane hot water baseboard.

    I’ve narrowed it down to a Harman Accentra 52i with an outdoor intake .. Ive been to most if not all the retailers local to me. Im in oxford ct .

    My question is does anyone have any advice on the best retailer / installers in my area as far as price and trouble free install and support . I have a standard chimney and fireplace so nothing special there I’d just like A professional install at a fair price ..

    Thanks in advance guys..
     
  2. BigJohnfromCT

    BigJohnfromCT
    Burning Hunk 2.
    NULL
    

    Dec 29, 2012
    247
    52
    Loc:
    Danbury, CT
    I have no experience with inserts but I purchased a Quadrafire MVAE from Black Swan in Newtown, CT. They are also a Harman dealer. I was very happy with the installation and service. Not sure if they would go to Oxford but might be worth a phone call.

    BTW, welcome to the forum. Let us know how you make out.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  3. TLO03

    TLO03
    New Member 2.
    NULL
    

    Mar 3, 2019
    4
    0
    Loc:
    CT
    Thanks for the response I was there already , glad to hear you had a good experience .
     
  4. jerrieric

    jerrieric
    Feeling the Heat 2.
    NULL
    

    Jul 7, 2008
    271
    53
    Loc:
    Windham Me
    I thought an insert would be good but how do you clean it? I've seen people having to slide it out and clean behind. Owners chime in.
     
  5. johneh

    johneh
    Minister of Fire 2.
    NULL
    

    Dec 19, 2009
    2,139
    934
    Loc:
    Eastern Ontario
    Inserts use a rail system they slide
    in and out every easily for cleaning and repairs
    But you must buy the rail system for your stove
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  6. jerrieric

    jerrieric
    Feeling the Heat 2.
    NULL
    

    Jul 7, 2008
    271
    53
    Loc:
    Windham Me
    That's good to know I saw someone built a rail system of the his own on here some time ago. I didn't realize they actually sold the system that I think you have to have.
     
  7. Overfireinthehole

    Overfireinthehole
    Feeling the Heat 2.
    NULL
    

    May 5, 2017
    306
    71
    Loc:
    Miller MO
    If your creative you don’t have to use their rail system. If your hearth is deep enough you can pull it out onto that. If not, find something to pull it out onto or make something. If nothing else, stack up some bags of pellets, and pull it out onto that. Unless your local codes call for it, you live in a high elevation area, or your house is newer, I wouldn’t use an oak on a 52I
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  8. fmsm

    fmsm
    Minister of Fire 2.
    NULL
    

    Dec 12, 2011
    910
    182
    Loc:
    South of Boston MA
    The rail system is standard on Harman inserts, nothing additional to purchase unless you want to extend the rails.

    Please defend your statement that you WOULD NOT use an OAK on an insert. That is horrible advise to the OP.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  9. Overfireinthehole

    Overfireinthehole
    Feeling the Heat 2.
    NULL
    

    May 5, 2017
    306
    71
    Loc:
    Miller MO
    The rail kit is a service item, unless your calling the frame that the unit sits in a rail. You have to have a deep hearth or a rail kit or something like what I suggested to set the unit on when you pull it out. Outside air is sometimes necessary in negative pressure situations or extremely tight houses, but if you run a length of fresh air flex up a chimney your usually going to drop the negative pressure reading of your stove a little because it is pulling air all the way down the chimney instead of just using the air that is already in your home. Oaks also tend to introduce a lot more moisture into a stove, which leads to rust problems and creosote. I just cleaned an XXV with an oak last Friday that was so gummed up I had to trash my brush afterwards. Most of the time, if your putting an insert in a masonry chimney, the unit will have plenty of air just from how much air comes in through the cracks in the chimney and where the chimney meets the house. We install about 50-70 52I every year and that has been my experience.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    Jack Morrissey likes this.
  10. TLO03

    TLO03
    New Member 2.
    NULL
    

    Mar 3, 2019
    4
    0
    Loc:
    CT
    Sorry I haven't checked back on this thread, at one point I saw it going “off the rails” lol.
    One retailer I talked to about a oak also was against it. Saying I’m leaking more air than a oak kit would use . And he's right my house is pretty leaky . When I turn on the house fan on I get drafts from all kinda of orifices light switches , plugs etc.

    Extra moisture is a good point I hadn't considered . My theory is this, why suck in cold air through my leaky house.?
    And with an oak would It not be a sealed combustion appliance ? And be more efficient?

    Thanks
     
  11. johneh

    johneh
    Minister of Fire 2.
    NULL
    

    Dec 19, 2009
    2,139
    934
    Loc:
    Eastern Ontario
    O A K
    Opinion just like ass holes every one has one
    My 2 cents I have had my stove for 18 years
    come September . I have burnt it with and with out an OAK
    I found no difference in heat output and drafts. Now I know
    other will disagree but like I said in my opening line -------------
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  12. Misterfredsr

    Misterfredsr
    New Member 2.
    NULL
    

    Jan 6, 2019
    11
    2
    Loc:
    PA. Delaware Water Gap
    I have a drafty house and I decided not to use an AOK for my insert and I ended up with a baseboard heat pipe bursting. As it turned out my biggest draft point was along my foundation coming in under my baseboard directly on my pipe. I'm looking to replace my insert this year and I'm going to install an AOK.
     
  13. johneh

    johneh
    Minister of Fire 2.
    NULL
    

    Dec 19, 2009
    2,139
    934
    Loc:
    Eastern Ontario
    I think I would be going after the air leaks first but
    then you are a long way South of me in the Great White North
    Air leaks are just wasted heat that you paid for
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  14. Overfireinthehole

    Overfireinthehole
    Feeling the Heat 2.
    NULL
    

    May 5, 2017
    306
    71
    Loc:
    Miller MO
    I think geography has a lot to do with the decision. Where I live there is a lot of humidity and mold is a major concern if your house is too tight. Obviously that would be less of a concern in Colorado or somewhere with lower humidity.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  15. Highbeam

    Highbeam
    Minister of Fire 2.
    NULL
    

    Dec 28, 2006
    16,005
    3,950
    Loc:
    Mt. Rainier Foothills, WA
    An oak should increase humidity in the home since you are not drawing in that cold dry outside air.

    It doesn’t matter how leaky your house is. It’s not even about stove performance. It’s about sucking conditioned air out of the home and replacing it with the crap outside in a non controlled manner.

    Less drafty in the home too.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    johneh likes this.

Share This Page