Going to buy a pellet insert soon advise please.

TLO03 Posted By TLO03, Jun 2, 2019 at 6:32 PM

  1. TLO03

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    Hello all , I’ve been researching pellet inserts and stoves since last September when I knew I was going to need supplemental/ main heating source in my newly purchased 3k sqft home . Currently burning propane hot water baseboard.

    I’ve narrowed it down to a Harman Accentra 52i with an outdoor intake .. Ive been to most if not all the retailers local to me. Im in oxford ct .

    My question is does anyone have any advice on the best retailer / installers in my area as far as price and trouble free install and support . I have a standard chimney and fireplace so nothing special there I’d just like A professional install at a fair price ..

    Thanks in advance guys..
     
  2. BigJohnfromCT

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    I have no experience with inserts but I purchased a Quadrafire MVAE from Black Swan in Newtown, CT. They are also a Harman dealer. I was very happy with the installation and service. Not sure if they would go to Oxford but might be worth a phone call.

    BTW, welcome to the forum. Let us know how you make out.
     
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  3. TLO03

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    Thanks for the response I was there already , glad to hear you had a good experience .
     
  4. jerrieric

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    I thought an insert would be good but how do you clean it? I've seen people having to slide it out and clean behind. Owners chime in.
     
  5. johneh

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    Inserts use a rail system they slide
    in and out every easily for cleaning and repairs
    But you must buy the rail system for your stove
     
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    That's good to know I saw someone built a rail system of the his own on here some time ago. I didn't realize they actually sold the system that I think you have to have.
     
  7. Overfireinthehole

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    If your creative you don’t have to use their rail system. If your hearth is deep enough you can pull it out onto that. If not, find something to pull it out onto or make something. If nothing else, stack up some bags of pellets, and pull it out onto that. Unless your local codes call for it, you live in a high elevation area, or your house is newer, I wouldn’t use an oak on a 52I
     
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    The rail system is standard on Harman inserts, nothing additional to purchase unless you want to extend the rails.

    Please defend your statement that you WOULD NOT use an OAK on an insert. That is horrible advise to the OP.
     
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    The rail kit is a service item, unless your calling the frame that the unit sits in a rail. You have to have a deep hearth or a rail kit or something like what I suggested to set the unit on when you pull it out. Outside air is sometimes necessary in negative pressure situations or extremely tight houses, but if you run a length of fresh air flex up a chimney your usually going to drop the negative pressure reading of your stove a little because it is pulling air all the way down the chimney instead of just using the air that is already in your home. Oaks also tend to introduce a lot more moisture into a stove, which leads to rust problems and creosote. I just cleaned an XXV with an oak last Friday that was so gummed up I had to trash my brush afterwards. Most of the time, if your putting an insert in a masonry chimney, the unit will have plenty of air just from how much air comes in through the cracks in the chimney and where the chimney meets the house. We install about 50-70 52I every year and that has been my experience.
     
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  10. TLO03

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    Sorry I haven't checked back on this thread, at one point I saw it going “off the rails” lol.
    One retailer I talked to about a oak also was against it. Saying I’m leaking more air than a oak kit would use . And he's right my house is pretty leaky . When I turn on the house fan on I get drafts from all kinda of orifices light switches , plugs etc.

    Extra moisture is a good point I hadn't considered . My theory is this, why suck in cold air through my leaky house.?
    And with an oak would It not be a sealed combustion appliance ? And be more efficient?

    Thanks
     

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