Is $450.00 a good deal for a Husquarvana 576xp with a new chain ?The saw is approximately one year old and is owned by a logger so it was used a lot. The carb was just rebuilt.
Good deal or not ?
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claydogg84
Minister of Fire
Mostly because that is what he has for sale and he swears by it. Says it has more power. he has logged for 10 years, could have any saw he wants and that's what he chooses. he replaces his saw every year.
claydogg84
Minister of Fire
372xp is considered by many to be Husqvarnas flagship saw. I nearly purchased a 576 myself, but ended up going with the 372 instead. Take a look at the cylinder by pulling the muffler. If it's in good shape $450 is probably right on spot.
Bad LP
Minister of Fire
Hard to beat a 372 and a 24" bar. I don't like bending over. 
The saw comes with a 24" bar. should be plenty big for anything i need to cut. I also have a 55 rancher with 18" bar for the small stuff.
claydogg84
Minister of Fire
The 24" bar is the perfect size for this size saw. The upgrade over the 455 will also be very nice.
Dairyman
Minister of Fire
The 576 has more power & is smoother operating than all other 70cc saws. Do you if it has a normal carb or auto tune? $450 is too much for a well used saw to me.
It's a year old. It's used more than most people would would use it in a year, but there were a couple of real rainy and muddy months that it didn't get used much if at all. He is throwing in a new chain...
Jon1270
Minister of Fire
It sounds like you've already decided, but I'll join Dairyman in saying that $450 is steep for a 576 with a year (or 10 months) of professional logging use.
My experience is that local/craigslist sales are typically at lower prices than eBay. This makes sense in most cases because, locally, buyers have to do more work and accept more risk while sellers get to do less work and accept less risk. The seller is also restricted to a much smaller market when selling locally. For functioning saws, I figure a range of 75%-87% of eBay (not including shipping) is about right. 87% means the seller gets just as much as if they had sold it on eBay, which is unusual. Saws that need repair go below that range.
Accordingly, for it to be a decent deal I'd say a $450 local saw ought to be in the same sort of condition as the same model sold on eBay for $517-$600. Does the saw you're considering look like these? I'm guessing not, because some of them are brand-new.
A new chain adds very little to the value of a used saw.
My experience is that local/craigslist sales are typically at lower prices than eBay. This makes sense in most cases because, locally, buyers have to do more work and accept more risk while sellers get to do less work and accept less risk. The seller is also restricted to a much smaller market when selling locally. For functioning saws, I figure a range of 75%-87% of eBay (not including shipping) is about right. 87% means the seller gets just as much as if they had sold it on eBay, which is unusual. Saws that need repair go below that range.
Accordingly, for it to be a decent deal I'd say a $450 local saw ought to be in the same sort of condition as the same model sold on eBay for $517-$600. Does the saw you're considering look like these? I'm guessing not, because some of them are brand-new.
A new chain adds very little to the value of a used saw.
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claydogg84
Minister of Fire
All the saws I seen on e-bay were over $100 more plus shipping and didn't come with a new chain. Seems like a fair deal I think.
Jon1270
Minister of Fire
Like I wrote, it sounds like you've already decided. Far be it for me to stop you.
I'm all for finding a better deal on a used saw. I just haven't seen one. I don't want to spend the money on a new one. one of the
saws on e-bay has been rebuilt. that tells me it was very well used one don't come with a bar or chain. that adds considerably to the price of getting it going. I would be willing to pay 500 for a saw not used hard but don't see any. Any more than $500 and I might as well buy new in my opinion
Patience is your friend when buying anything used.
Unless you need a saw right at this moment...otherwise wait. Trust me once you put your hard earned money down on this particular saw, a better deal will come along! It never fails!
Unless you need a saw right at this moment...otherwise wait. Trust me once you put your hard earned money down on this particular saw, a better deal will come along! It never fails!
Jon1270
Minister of Fire
Well, larger saws are less common on CL, so if you want one now then your options are going to be constrained. His options are constrained too, though, unless he wants to mess with eBay or a sale through a forum, so it becomes a bit of a game of chicken. I have more than enough saws for my own use, but I buy, fix and sell them frequently as a hobby. I don't buy at prices that will cause me to lose money if I decide to sell, and that's the lens I'm seeing this through.
When you're looking at eBay prices for comparison, make sure you've checked the box at the bottom of the left-hand column that says "Show only => Sold listings," because otherwise you're getting asking prices, not actual selling prices. Just like on Craigslist, eBay is full of listings with unrealistically high asking/"Buy It Now" prices. Also, don't forget the cost of travel time and mileage if you have to drive some distance to see a saw locally.
In your position I'd probably make an offer in line with what I thought he'd be likely to get for it by selling on eBay, i.e. 87% of a typical actual eBay selling price for a 576 in similar condition, not including shipping. That's the top end of what I'd consider a "good deal." If he declines, you can still cave and pay the asking price.
When you're looking at eBay prices for comparison, make sure you've checked the box at the bottom of the left-hand column that says "Show only => Sold listings," because otherwise you're getting asking prices, not actual selling prices. Just like on Craigslist, eBay is full of listings with unrealistically high asking/"Buy It Now" prices. Also, don't forget the cost of travel time and mileage if you have to drive some distance to see a saw locally.
In your position I'd probably make an offer in line with what I thought he'd be likely to get for it by selling on eBay, i.e. 87% of a typical actual eBay selling price for a 576 in similar condition, not including shipping. That's the top end of what I'd consider a "good deal." If he declines, you can still cave and pay the asking price.
Bad LP
Minister of Fire
A one year old pro used saw is going to need a rebuild soon. Have you priced out a top end kit? Can you do the job yourself or will you need to let a shop do it?
And yes, it looks like you made up your mind already no matter what your being told.
Lastly do you really need a saw that large? Sure I have a 372 XP that makes short work of anything you put the bar to but its heavy to lug around. I prefer my old 257XP for most tasks and I'm not shy for grabbing the little 141.
And yes, it looks like you made up your mind already no matter what your being told.
Lastly do you really need a saw that large? Sure I have a 372 XP that makes short work of anything you put the bar to but its heavy to lug around. I prefer my old 257XP for most tasks and I'm not shy for grabbing the little 141.
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claydogg84
Minister of Fire
Where are you getting 87% from, Jon? Saying a brand new $25 chain doesn't add value to a deal is nothing short of incorrect. $450 is a fair price for this saw as long as the top end is in good shape and it's not beat up. Husqvarna is nice enough to stamp the manufacturing date on the tags, so be sure to confirm that it is indeed only a year old - I thought the 576 was AutoTune last year. In the end, the saw is only worth what you're willing to pay for it. Good Luck
Jon1270
Minister of Fire
Ebay's standard cut off the top is 10%, and PayPal then takes another 2.9% plus 30 cents.
Well, yeah, but what I said is that it adds very little, not that it adds nothing. Perhaps I wasn't as clear as I could've been, but I was comparing the increase in value of a new chain vs. a usable used chain, which would only be a few dollars. The one time I bought a chain through Craigslist, it was a NIB Stihl 33RS 25" chain, and it was $15. The ad had been up for a good while, too.
Yes in my opinion i do need a saw that large. I run a 55 cc saw now and it's just not enough power to make me happy. It has gotten me by but im ready to speed things up. I burn 8 cord a year. like I said if I can find a better deal I'd jump on it. my mind is not made up. I do want to get a saw in the very near future because I still need about six cord for this winter. Don't tell me the wood I cut won't be burnable this year because I have plenty off dead white ash that I can cut today and burn tomorrow. I also want to get a year ahead and just got a wagon and in the process of fixing my tractor so I'm about to be in serious wood cutting mode. I am mechanically inclined and can rebuild a saw if need be but i will check the cylinder because Im not paying that much for a saw that needs rebuilt.
I Know the saw is around a year old because I Know the guy personally, and he buys a new one every year. It may have been a saw that sat on a shelf a while before it was sold but I know It was only used a year and he bought it new. I also know the guy who bought one from him the year before and it still works great.
jeffesonm
Minister of Fire
I wanted a big saw for a while and watched craigslist like a hawk, probably 9+ months. One day I saw an ad for a garage sale nearby with a "chainsaw" and a big looking orange saw in the picture... was there 20 minutes later with a wad of cash and walked out with a MS660 32" bar and 5 chains for $400.
You can get a fair price now, a good deal soon or a great deal eventually, just depends how bad you want it vs how long you're willing to to wait.
You can get a fair price now, a good deal soon or a great deal eventually, just depends how bad you want it vs how long you're willing to to wait.
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