Well I am half way through my first pallet of Hamer Hot Ones made in Elkins, WV. I was super excited to try these after seeing all the race reviews all over the internet. So paying $325 a ton ($75 more than I normally pay) was a no brainier. Unfortunately I see no less ash and no more heat with these than the Cheat River I have been using. Maybe slightly less fines. But the bags are definitely more delicate. There has really been no difference in ash build up or ash cakes in my PelPro pp130 or my Quadrafire Contour. I would buy them again, but only if they were the same price as the competition.