Harman ignitor install tip.

Tonyray

Minister of Fire
Once you have the 2 ignitor screws removed and the whole cradle hanging down, your next step is to cut the straps that hold the two igniter wires together in the rear of your stove. Before pulling the whole igniter with the wires attached thru on the front of your stove, take a magic marker and mark the two wires very clearly then pull them through from the front. This way after you have the new igniter installed and the two wires connected, you simply pull the two wires from the rear back until you hit the magic marker spot. Now you know the wires are in the exact same spot they were before you pulled them.
 
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johnvictor

New Member
Sep 7, 2020
2
canada
Running on a thermostat requires either replacing the igniter every 6 months or cleaning your stove more often. The two modes either turn your stove off [burning up igniter to relight] or toggling between high/low settings [burning on low soots up stove] when thermostat is satisfied.

We have a 25 yr old Whitfield that is bulletproof. I installed two [US Stove 5520] thermostat controlled units in flip houses this past winter. Each of them ended up being "not worth" running on thermostats. Of course the houses were unoccupied so YMMV.

If I were to buy a Thermo controlled stove I would shell out for a Harman or better, find one on Craigslist. It seems many folks move to gas etc., after a few years with a pellet stove. I suspect the real reason folks are dissatisfied is because the "through the wall" exhaust design is faulty and does not allow for sufficient draft. Run your exhaust through the ceiling or at least use 4" exhaust pipe. [of course the added draft lessens efficiency but makes the stove burn much hotter/cleaner.
 
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Overfireinthehole

Minister of Fire
May 5, 2017
737
Miller MO
Running on a thermostat requires either replacing the igniter every 6 months or cleaning your stove more often. The two modes either turn your stove off [burning up igniter to relight] or toggling between high/low settings [burning on low soots up stove] when thermostat is satisfied.

We have a 25 yr old Whitfield that is bulletproof. I installed two [US Stove 5520] thermostat controlled units in flip houses this past winter. Each of them ended up being "not worth" running on thermostats. Of course the houses were unoccupied so YMMV.

If I were to buy a Thermo controlled stove I would shell out for a Harman or better, find one on Craigslist. It seems many folks move to gas etc., after a few years with a pellet stove. I suspect the real reason folks are dissatisfied is because the "through the wall" exhaust design is faulty and does not allow for sufficient draft. Run your exhaust through the ceiling or at least use 4" exhaust pipe. [of course the added draft lessens efficiency but makes the stove burn much hotter/cleaner.
Hey new fella! Hot rod igniters like the one your Whitfield has are not designed to culver on and off frequently, and the burn pot on your stove is supposed to be emptied every fire, so that the holes are clear and free of debris that would prevent airflow and block igniter hole. Most stoves that run off a thermostat use. Coil igniter or a finned cartridge that is meant to stand up to the wear and tear. Your right that your stove shouldn’t run off a tstat, but Tony has the Cadillac of pellet stoves with an igniter that will last 10+ years running on thermostat mode. Also, pellet stoves have forced draft. You don’t need natural draft until you get above 30 ft or equivalent of venting. On a perfect world, everyone would have a 2 ft horizontal run of pipe so they could clean it easily and cap it for the summer. Keep trying to help people, but don’t think all pellet stoves are the same.
 
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railfanron

Minister of Fire
Nov 2, 2013
516
Perry MI
I have a Harman P43 and I run the stove 7-24s in the heating season on thermostat only. I just replaced the igniter at 5 years. It still worked but seemed to short out occasionally and it would blow the control board fuse. Using an average of 12 times a day that's over 2 thousand times the stove ignited successfully. My Propane furnace igniter lasted about the same amount of time. Do I clean my stove? Yes but I don't clean it as often as I probably should so maybe if I cleaned it perfectly it might have lasted 10 years.
Ron
 

DAKSY

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"Running on a thermostat requires either replacing the igniter every 6 months or cleaning your stove more often. The two modes either turn your stove off [burning up igniter to relight] or toggling between high/low settings [burning on low soots up stove] when thermostat is satisfied. "

Not true, at least in my case...
Going on 10 years with my P61A on the OEM igniter.
I clean it thoroughly once a ton, or 3 times each season...
I run it constantly on the thermostat (Room Temp)...
 

Bill Pitman

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Mar 17, 2018
10
Milford, Pa.
I have a Harman P43 and I run the stove 7-24s in the heating season on thermostat only. I just replaced the igniter at 5 years. It still worked but seemed to short out occasionally and it would blow the control board fuse. Using an average of 12 times a day that's over 2 thousand times the stove ignited successfully. My Propane furnace igniter lasted about the same amount of time. Do I clean my stove? Yes but I don't clean it as often as I probably should so maybe if I cleaned it perfectly it might have lasted 10 years.
Ron
When I do a monthly cleaning, one of the things I do is clean the igniter. I use a vacuum to clean the burn chamber. Then use canned compressed air & blow up thru the igniter, to clean & make sure there is no debris within the fins....
3rd year burning with a Harman P43.....
Bill Pitman
 
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Tonyray

Minister of Fire
When I do a monthly cleaning, one of the things I do is clean the igniter. I use a vacuum to clean the burn chamber. Then use canned compressed air & blow up thru the igniter, to clean & make sure there is no debris within the fins....
3rd year burning with a Harman P43.....
Bill Pitman
Yep... i used compressed air also . Have learned to keep my mouth shut when my face is in there..lol.. harman ignitor is solid and durable. I had a bare wire spot and must have shorted my 1st one out when fingering out the ash in the compartment..so many burners obsess about saving prob the cheapest essential part on the stove. 80 bucks. I wont burn a different mode just to "save it ".its part of the harman technology we all paid for..
 
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MSmith66

Feeling the Heat
Feb 5, 2008
438
Central NY
"Running on a thermostat requires either replacing the igniter every 6 months or cleaning your stove more often. The two modes either turn your stove off [burning up igniter to relight] or toggling between high/low settings [burning on low soots up stove] when thermostat is satisfied. "

Not true, at least in my case...
Going on 10 years with my P61A on the OEM igniter.
I clean it thoroughly once a ton, or 3 times each season...
I run it constantly on the thermostat (Room Temp)...
I agree, I still have the original 13 fin ignitor. 15+ yrs.