Hearthstone or Enviro?

ChevWood15

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Apr 27, 2018
27
N.Y.
New member here! Been lurking through many threads, now time to ask. My wife and I had an old Fisher stove insert that's on its last legs. We have been looking at new inserts for a while. Its narrowed down to the Hearthstone Clydesdale and the Enviro Boston 1700. Just looking for any advice and reviews for the two. Mainly looking for reliability and realistic burn times. Thanks!
 

stovelark

Minister of Fire
Oct 10, 2009
1,467
SE CT
Hi Chev- Both quality stoves. The Clydesdale looks like a very massive, very robust stove. Firebox for both is around 2.5cf. The Boston is a beautiful stove too, very quiet blower, has the venerable burn engine of all 1700 series enviros, a steel box with cast iron cladding. The Clydesdale has a bigger fireview, if that's important. Both are expensive, both are able heaters up to around 2000 sqft here in NE.
 

illini81

Feeling the Heat
Apr 7, 2017
323
Southeastern CT
Big fan of the Enviro Boston. Just finished the first year with ours. Heats 2500 sqft for most of our winter in CT. On a daily basis, I got 10.5 hr burns (7:00 pm to 5:30 AM), but I was also able to get some 12 hr (and a bit past that) burns the few times I needed to. Very pleased with the stove!
 
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illini81

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Apr 7, 2017
323
Southeastern CT
One aspect of the Enviro that I really like is that it is designed to load North/South. I can fit a 20" log in N/S, although it does best with around 18" logs. I am not sure whether the Clydesdale is a N/S or E/W loader.
 

begreen

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Congratulations. Looking forward to the pics of the install.
 

saewoody

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Feb 15, 2017
456
CT
Best of luck with the Enviro. I think you’ll be happy with it.


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stovelark

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Oct 10, 2009
1,467
SE CT
Congrats- the Boston is a beauty. Let us know how she works out for you.
 

BrotherBart

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Never heard a discouraging word from an Enviro stove owner. And the Boston is a beauty..
 

ChevWood15

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Apr 27, 2018
27
N.Y.
Decided to do the install myself, will be saving over $800. I took out our old insert. Is it pretty straight forward? Just hooking up the liner to the stove? Any tips or advice is appreciated.
 
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saewoody

Feeling the Heat
Feb 15, 2017
456
CT
Decided to do the install myself, will be saving over $800. I took out our old insert. Is it pretty straight forward? Just hooking up the liner to the stove? Any tips or advice is appreciated.
Take a look at how your blower is installed so you know what you need to do when it is time to remove it and clean it. After cleaning mine after 4-5 years of burning, I would recommend cleaning it out every 1-2 years.


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saewoody

Feeling the Heat
Feb 15, 2017
456
CT
Decided to do the install myself, will be saving over $800. I took out our old insert. Is it pretty straight forward? Just hooking up the liner to the stove? Any tips or advice is appreciated.
Also, check out the thread illini81 started for Enviro stoves.


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begreen

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Take a look at how your blower is installed so you know what you need to do when it is time to remove it and clean it. After cleaning mine after 4-5 years of burning, I would recommend cleaning it out every 1-2 years.
Yes, a blower should be cleaned every year. If possible, lubricate it then too.
 
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stovelark

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Oct 10, 2009
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The Boston is a vertical, quiet unit mounted on the left side as you face the stove. To get to it, take the top plate off (3/8 inch bolts, only tighten the front two, you'll see what I mean.) Take off the door, and that will give you access to the side panel and the blower. And yes, clean every year if you want maximum lifetime of it.
 
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ChevWood15

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Apr 27, 2018
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N.Y.
The Boston is a vertical, quiet unit mounted on the left side as you face the stove. To get to it, take the top plate off (3/8 inch bolts, only tighten the front two, you'll see what I mean.) Take off the door, and that will give you access to the side panel and the blower. And yes, clean every year if you want maximum lifetime of it.
I was cleaning our old stove fan every year. Will definitely continue to.
 

BrotherBart

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Beautiful.
 

ChevWood15

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Apr 27, 2018
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When I do the break in fire, what would be a good target temp? Should I measure temp on the flu collar or stove top?
 

begreen

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It's a steel stove at heart. There's no real break-in required though you may want to do a small kindling fire at first just to dry out the bricks. After that, fire it up to 500F and open all windows, maybe with a fan exhausting fumes from the paint baking in.
 

begreen

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We did have a quick fire a couple weeks ago. Forgot to take some pictures. It didnt seem to get much flame action, not sure why. It was about 60 degrees outside.
If the fire was weak, there are a few possible reasons assuming the install is proper. Weak draft, insufficient air or fuel or poorly seasoned wood.
You new stove will require stronger draft than the old Fisher. Draft will be weaker when the indoor temp is close to the outside temp. If the flue is on the short side or has some 90º turns then that will also slow down draft.
 

ChevWood15

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Apr 27, 2018
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N.Y.
If the fire was weak, there are a few possible reasons assuming the install is proper. Weak draft, insufficient air or fuel or poorly seasoned wood.
You new stove will require stronger draft than the old Fisher. Draft will be weaker when the indoor temp is close to the outside temp. If the flue is on the short side or has some 90º turns then that will also slow down draft.
Inside temp and outside temp was within a couple degrees. No 90 degree turns, flue is probably 25-30 feet.
 

begreen

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Inside temp and outside temp was within a couple degrees. No 90 degree turns, flue is probably 25-30 feet.
With that setup and dry wood you should see a marked improvement when the temps drop 10 degrees.
 
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