I Understand The Danger of Deep Stoves Now

[wkpoor]

No I'm not in danger, but I can see the problem. When you have a firebox as big as the Elm you find yourself putting in monster splits that require 2 hands to hold onto.

 

[pen]

I have a cabin I frequent (where I get my firewood) where there is a double barrel stove which heats the place. It is nothing for them to put logs in 2 deep and 3 high. That's 24+ hours of burning for my stove and that thing will eat it up in about 4-5.

I sure hope that elm does better than that.

It's an awesome looking stove btw.

pen

 

[BrotherBart]

The depth of that thing is exactly why a guy I used to work with ended up in the back of the EMT wagon. Wrestling with big chunks of wood he had his hands too far into a barrel stove and got trapped and burned badly by the door frame. A long handled set of tongs are six bucks at HD. Get'em.

 

[Peter B.]

I have to concede I find that a nice looking stove.

Does the glass stay clean? Is there an air wash? Is this the 'hybrid' secondary + cat model?

How is it working out for you?

Peter B.

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[wkpoor]

I have a cabin I frequent (where I get my firewood) where there is a double barrel stove which heats the place. It is nothing for them to put logs in 2 deep and 3 high. That's 24+ hours of burning for my stove and that thing will eat it up in about 4-5.

I sure hope that elm does better than that.

It's an awesome looking stove btw.

pen

Well its a little soon to tell just how much consumption this thing is gong to have but tonight I loaded it up at 6pm and 4.5hrs later its still above 600 degrees. The Mag would have been loaded at least twice since then to maintain temps above 500. But then again I probably load 3xs the wood at a time so maybe its relevant. One thing I knew would be more to my liking is the coaling issue. It coals like a true EPA stove but if you rake them forward they really light up hot. I can get 600 degree stove top on just the coals. Before it was 2-300 degrees.

 

[snowleopard]

What a thing of beauty! Wow!

 

[wkpoor]

The depth of that thing is exactly why a guy I used to work with ended up in the back of the EMT wagon. Wrestling with big chunks of wood he had his hands too far into a barrel stove and got trapped and burned badly by the door frame. A long handled set of tongs are six bucks at HD. Get'em.

Gotem and have hadem long time. Use to use then all the time with an old stove I had with a real deep fire box.

 

[wkpoor]

I have to concede I find that a nice looking stove.

Does the glass stay clean? Is there an air wash? Is this the 'hybrid' secondary + cat model?

How is it working out for you?

Peter B.

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Glass stays perfectly clear at all times. I did not expect that but it does. It only has secondary burn in this model but can be had with a cat on the Wildfire model. So far its working great!
I finally have a stove that has a cast door that meets a cast frame. Heat has no effect on how the door closes or how it seals which btw only requires a small 1/4 rope seal in a deep channel. Should be trouble free for yrs unlike the large surface mounts I'm used too.
A side benefit to a round firebox is ash tends to collect in the bottom middle making it very easy to deal with either for raking forward or taking out. This model has 5.4 cuft box so I can now put in whatever I grab from the pile. Alot of my wood is 24" long and I may continue to cut it that way. This thing likes it hot. Secondaries come in at 650 degrees at which point primary air can be shut down altogether. Then temps will continue to climb to over 800 where the real heat comes from. No problem, between the cast and the 1/4" thick round firebox, warping shouldn't an issue like conventional stoves with alot of flat 1/8" steel. The stove pipe connector is cleverly designed to except a pipe coming in from any angle from straight up to straight back by simply rotating the assembly. Long legs give good air circulation. Door is very solid and easy to operate and temperature does not effect it at all. I haven't owned a stove till now where something didn't change when they heat up. I realize the cast iron VCs or soap stoves would be this way too.

 

[Peter B.]

Thanks for the detail...

It would be nice to have a handle on observed fuel consumption. I note you have a stack alongside the stove. I made an effort last year (or two ago) to figure the cubic feet I burn over the course of a several week period... by measuring the stack on hand and counting the days it was good for... but obviously it's not relatable to anyone else's situation.

Still of use for one's own edification.

Peter B.

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[VCBurner]

I've been intrigued with these Elms since I first laid eyes on them. How could you not be? They look like a thing out of Alice in Wonderland. I wouldn't be surprized if those legs started to walk themselves to the wood pile when it starts to run low on wood!! :lol: They also have a beauty and simplicity that is not matched by any other stove I've ever seen. The true North/South loading is one of the best things about these stoves. This lends to the best things a stove can offer.

Now the question: WKpoor, what have you done to get away with two new stoves in one season? Lucky you! Congrats man, that thing is a beast! Truly outbeasting, even the beastiest of beasts Too bad you didn't get the wings or it could fly out of there too! :vampire:

 

[snowleopard]

They look like a barrel stove after the fairy godmother got done with them . . . I want one . . . I am a barrel stove fan, and admire their utility, but this is like . . . no, I want more than one . . . this is like all the good things about barrel stoves and cook stoves and epa's rolled together . . . maybe in my garage . . . or I could build a building for it to go in . . . a woodshed with a woodstove . . . or a studio . . .

 

[pen]

when was this beast made?

pen

 

[fishingpol]

Here's an older elm on C/L for Boston area. I believe it is still available. I hope the hyper link thing works for you who are interested. I don't think to many people around here know much about these stoves.

Vermont Elm Wood Stove - $375 (Hardwick)

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Date: 2011-02-16, 7:56PM EST
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This is an original "Elm Wood" wood stove from the Vermont Stove Company. It will accept a 24" log. Great things are being done with these stoves.....go to www.vermontironstove.com for more info. You won't believe what you see!


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[fishingpol]

Maybe try this instead...still learning.

(broken link removed to http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/for/2218587568.html)

 

[jeff_t]

I've wanted to know more about these stoves since I first saw one. There's a few here who have them, but hopefully you'll keep us updated like with the Mag (need more pics). Also hope it's next winter before you get to really test it. I'm done with winter.

 

[offroadaudio]

A company called Charmaster (charmaster.com) makes what they call the "log fork" for loading their 30" fire box.
It's sold separately and might be worth a look. It has a bend like those fancy snow shovels that are supposed to make it easier to lift.

 

[Shari]

Sounds like you are a perfect candidate for these:

a direct link is here:

http://www.cabelas.com/p-0031805590345a.shtml

The gloves are 19†long - that’s the longest gloves I’ve ever seen.

 

[wkpoor]

Sounds like you are a perfect candidate for these:

a direct link is here:

http://www.cabelas.com/p-0031805590345a.shtml

The gloves are 19†long - that’s the longest gloves I’ve ever seen.

I've always loaded with a black pair just like pictured. But with a 30" deep firebox even those are too short. I'm sitting them in and pushing back.

 

[Todd]

Very cool! I bet it radiates heat like the sun.