I'm back after 10 years. You guys are the salt of the earth. I'm looking for Lopi Freedom or similar inserts, any insights appreciated.

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murinsky

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Jan 11, 2011
27
SW CT
Greetings kind folks. 10 years ago this board helped me self install an Avalon Ranier which I have gotten great use out of. The stove does not go cold between Halloween and April 1. The baby in my profile photo is now in 5th grade.....dog is the same.

I have another project now with a different hearth. It is a huge stacked stone masonry fireplace built in the 1920's, but the actual firebox is pretty small.

I can fit a Lopi Freedom, because it is tapered at the back, so I am currently targeting that stove. The existing masonry firebox tapers from 31" at the front to 24" at the back so this unit should fit well. I was looking at an Avalon Olympic but it is too big at the back.

Because of the nice stone work, I'd rather not install any oversized surround. That's how I did the Ranier - I cut a custom metal mesh screen to fit between the insert and bricks and it looks great.

I am looking for help to think of any other stoves of similar size and shape and with a clean appearance "behind the surround" (this actually rules out quite a few inserts)?

Any suggestions welcome!!

Thanks all
 
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kennyp2339

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Wrlcome back, I still refer your mesh screen occasionally, that was beautiful from the moment you put it in.
 

gregbesia

Feeling the Heat
Jan 26, 2009
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central CT
Hi. Welcome back. Would you like to buy my used Englander NCI 13 insert? I think it should fit.
 

begreen

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Welcome back, yes I liked your solution for Rainier. It should go into the gallery. The Freedom is a good insert, but it would have to be found used. The only traditional Lopi insert that has shown up so far in 2020 is the Answer. The Avalon line has been discontinued. Most of the 2020 inserts are flush now. Osburn has a few more traditional models.
What is the depth of the fireplace and lintel height?
 
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murinsky

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Jan 11, 2011
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Welcome back, yes I liked your solution for Rainier. It should go into the gallery. The Freedom is a good insert, but it would have to be found used. The only traditional Lopi insert that has shown up so far in 2020 is the Answer. The Avalon line has been discontinued. Most of the 2020 inserts are flush now. Osburn has a few more traditional models.
What is the depth of the fireplace and lintel height?
Hi Begreen, glad to see you still here helping! Yes I am looking for a used Lopi Freedom, I think they quit making them in 2012 or so.

Lintel height is 31.5" Depth is 20.5" at the top and 23.5" at the bottom.

Should have put some photos on my OP, here they are
 

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john26

Minister of Fire
Oct 27, 2008
545
Wildwood MO
Welcome back. I went down the same road last year. I searched and found a used Lopi freedom, I looked for that insert because of the large size, quality reputation and the flexibility of recess or surface placement. I am not a fan of the big surrounds so I placed the front of mine even with the brick and made a custom recessed surround. thumbnail.jpg thumbnail (1).jpg
 

buc74

Burning Hunk
Oct 16, 2012
149
Fort Atkinson, WI
This is a small Alpine Kuma insert we just put in last week. Our fireplace was 22" across the back so we were very limited on what stoves would fit. No surround will be added.
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firefighterjake

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That's one smart dog if it's in 5th grade . . .
 
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murinsky

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Jan 11, 2011
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This is a small Alpine Kuma insert we just put in last week. Our fireplace was 22" across the back so we were very limited on what stoves would fit. No surround will be added.
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Those look nice, I think I might be able to squeeze in the bigger one. How is the fan? As noisy as all the other ones?
 

buc74

Burning Hunk
Oct 16, 2012
149
Fort Atkinson, WI
Surprisingly quiet, on low I can barely hear it. The blower on my Summit and Buck stove are/were considerably loader. Our burn times are between 9-10 hours for our first 4 fires so far. I'm pretty happy with that with the small fire box it has.
 
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john26

Minister of Fire
Oct 27, 2008
545
Wildwood MO
Surprisingly quiet, on low I can barely hear it. The blower on my Summit and Buck stove are/were considerably loader. Our burn times are between 9-10 hours for our first 4 fires so far. I'm pretty happy with that with the small fire box it has.
Not trying to hijack the thread but, I see you have a Buck 74 and a Summit. How would you compare those two to each other. My parents are building a new house next spring, they are looking at a 74 with zero clearance cabinet and a PE FP30 fire place same fire box as the Summit.
 

buc74

Burning Hunk
Oct 16, 2012
149
Fort Atkinson, WI
Not trying to hijack the thread but, I see you have a Buck 74 and a Summit. How would you compare those two to each other. My parents are building a new house next spring, they are looking at a 74 with zero clearance cabinet and a PE FP30 fire place same fire box as the Summit.
The Buck fire box is not as deep and I could never get the secondaries on the Buck to perform like the PE. They both do put out a ton of heat though.
 

john26

Minister of Fire
Oct 27, 2008
545
Wildwood MO
The Buck fire box is not as deep and I could never get the secondaries on the Buck to perform like the PE. They both do put out a ton of heat though.
Thank you for the information, I have been talking up the PE to them I like the bigger fire box and Mom likes the look of the PE FP30 over the Buck 74ZC. So they will probably go with the PE.
 

buc74

Burning Hunk
Oct 16, 2012
149
Fort Atkinson, WI
Thank you for the information, I have been talking up the PE to them I like the bigger fire box and Mom likes the look of the PE FP30 over the Buck 74ZC. So they will probably go with the PE.
Your welcome. That's the way I would go also.