In search of wall shield ideas

[pfettig77]

I'm installing a Jotul 602 and I want to put it as close as I can to an inside corner of a very small room, so planned building a wall shield from Durock and stone veneer. I went to Menards (like Home Depot for you non-midwesterners) today to look at stone veneer to put on and I was shocked at the price - it's about $8 a square foot for just the stone. The wall would be 21 or 28 square feet depending on if I choose to make the wall 3 or 4 feet tall. That's a lot of dollars. Has anyone ever just used 1 foot tiles or something else (would that even work)? What about a stucco-type plaster finish over the cement board? Also, what's the best spacer to use for the 1" air space?

 

[begreen]

Tile or stucco would be fine. Or just put up some sheet metal on spacers.

 

[Gareth96]

I haven't done it yet , but I plan on using the Armstrong Metallaire ceiling tiles. Going to make the wall out of Durock, and then put metal tiles an inch out from the wall on metal spacers of some sort. The tiles are 2'x4' and come in a lot of patterns. I went and looked at Lowe's the other day and they seem pretty sturdy. A lot cheaper than stone, and a pretty easy solution to install. Here's a link..

http://www.armstrong.com/residentia...ion/48-x-24-panel/_/N-1z141rfZ1z141sjZ1z141pg

 

[begreen]

Put the Durock on spacers and attach the metal tiles to the cement board. I'm not sure how you will attach these metal tiles though. It can't be with adhesive and I'm not sure if thinset is advised.

 

[Warm_in_NH]

Used ceramic tile that looks like slate. I was a little concerned because it's actually a "high definition ink jet print" on the tiles and I gambled that this "ink" wouldn't be affected by the heat.
3 cords of wood later, all still looks good...

 

[GENECOP]

Pour your own concrete slabs, embed stones or glass, if you want details I would be happy to help you out...these slabs will be glued with thinset to your Durock....3-5 bags of Crack Resistant redi mix will do it....some 1x2 for forms, $120 you will get it done...

 

[hiites]

I used the Stone Master Roma Stone veneer from Menards and it was between $4-5/sq ft. It wasn't shown on the wall behind the building materials desk, it was over by the shingles. It wasn't my first choice but I also had a budget to keep, it turned out ok. It's on the wall you can see in my avatar.

 

[pfettig77]

I haven't done it yet , but I plan on using the Armstrong Metallaire ceiling tiles. Going to make the wall out of Durock, and then put metal tiles an inch out from the wall on metal spacers of some sort. The tiles are 2'x4' and come in a lot of patterns. I went and looked at Lowe's the other day and they seem pretty sturdy. A lot cheaper than stone, and a pretty easy solution to install. Here's a link..

http://www.armstrong.com/residentia...ion/48-x-24-panel/_/N-1z141rfZ1z141sjZ1z141pg

Those are pretty cool looking. You'll have to post pics when it's done for sure.

 

[pfettig77]

Pour your own concrete slabs, embed stones or glass, if you want details I would be happy to help you out...these slabs will be glued with thinset to your Durock....3-5 bags of Crack Resistant redi mix will do it....some 1x2 for forms, $120 you will get it done...

That sounds like a job for someone who has some semblance of skill. I'm still trying to figure out how to get the Durock an inch off the wall.

 

[begreen]

Actually one could skip the Durock completely and mount these panels on spacers. They have a pretty wide selection of panels. This could finish out nicely.

 

[pfettig77]

Used ceramic tile that looks like slate. I was a little concerned because it's actually a "high definition ink jet print" on the tiles and I gambled that this "ink" wouldn't be affected by the heat.
3 cords of wood later, all still looks good...

I used the Stone Master Roma Stone veneer from Menards and it was between $4-5/sq ft. It wasn't shown on the wall behind the building materials desk, it was over by the shingles. It wasn't my first choice but I also had a budget to keep, it turned out ok. It's on the wall you can see in my avatar.

That looks pretty cool - that's what I had originally wanted before the sticker shock. I looked at similar stuff at Menards yesterday. He said that the mortarless version almost came out to be the same price after you figured out all the mortar and other needed supplies. I wonder if that's true.

 

[pfettig77]

I was looking at something like this: http://www.menards.com/main/floorin...l-porcelain-tile-12-x-18/p-2191679-c-6557.htm
but I thought maybe it would look too much like my 602 was taking a shower.

 

[begreen]

You don't have to use just one tile style. What happened to the metal ceiling tiles?

 

[pfettig77]

You don't have to use just one tile style. What happened to the metal ceiling tiles?

I like the idea of the metal ceiling tiles, but I think I'll let Gareth do it first and show us what it looks like.

 

[begreen]

Whoops. I liked that idea so much I got fixated on it. One way to create 1" spacers is to take a sheet of cement board and cut off 3" wide firring strips from the 3Ft end.

Locate the studs and screw 2 layers of these 3" x 3' strips onto the studs. Then screw the cement board to the studs using 2.5" screws every 8 inches. That will provide a solid mount for the cement board.

 

[pfettig77]

Whoops. I liked that idea so much I got fixated on it. One way to create 1" spacers is to take a sheet of cement board and cut off 3" wide firring strips from the 3Ft end.

Locate the studs and screw 2 layers of these 3" x 3' strips onto the studs. Then screw the cement board to the studs using 2.5" screws every 8 inches. That will provide a solid mount for the cement board.

I thought I heard someone say that before. I ran into some friends at Menards and mentioned that but they said that the stuff is hard to work with and that would be difficult to do. Do I need special screws and stuff for that? What's the best way to cut it? I've only ever dealt with sheetrock before.

 

[begreen]

It's easy with fresh utility knife blades. Deep score it on the cut line on both sides then snap it over a sharp edge. Normally you use their special screws but at 2.5" or 3" you will probably be using extra-long drywall screws.

 

[pfettig77]

Sounds easy enougth. Thanks.

 

[Gareth96]

Actually one could skip the Durock completely and mount these panels on spacers. They have a pretty wide selection of panels. This could finish out nicely.

I believe you were talking about my metal tile idea here.. I was thinking of skipping the durock too as it will be hard to screw the tiles into it. For my alcove install I'll be a few hairs outside the min distance to combustibles (extra 1/2" on each side) if I use 3/8" drywall. Then popping these metal tiles out 1" from the wall will just be added precaution. I think the hardest part will be holding the spacers in place when I screw it to the wall, but I'll figure something out. Not going to install until it warms up. Plus I still need to figure what all I need to do permit-wise to do this legally..

Edit - Do you think it would be worth using 5/8 type X drywall, or since I'm outside the min distance to combustibles AND using a heat shield that that's just double overkill?

 

[begreen]

If you are asking if you can forgo putting drywall on the studs, I'm not sure. That gets into fire code territory. I think I would do it even if just fire-taped.

 

[Gareth96]

No, I was saying instead of Durock I'm thinking of just doing drywall (either 3/8 or the 5/8 stuff) since I'm a bit outside of clearances to combustibles (hole is a bit bigger than it needs to be).

 

[mass_burner]

what about glass, like the thick glass they use on table tops or for kitchen pantry door panels.

 

[pfettig77]

That's a cool idea too. I wonder if that would be the same as cement board in terms of code.

 

[osagebow]

Actually one could skip the Durock completely and mount these panels on spacers. They have a pretty wide selection of panels. This could finish out nicely.

Were you referring to the stone veneer or metallaire here?

 

[begreen]

the metallaire panels.