My outdoor wood furnace is using too much wood so I looking to install a wood stove inside. I like the look of a in wall wood stove and its smaller footprint in room. But I can't afford /justify paying $3k + for one. I had the idea of removing a section of wall between living room and utility room and building a stone wall and put a wood stove in it with wings/flanges welded to sides and top to make a clean looking install. Or find a big enough efficient insert at a decent price. The wall will be 6' wide 9' high. I want to go with a stacked stone look. I still deciding on using real rock( I have plenty) but will be a huge project or go with a veneer with cement board and steel studs which will cost lots. Since it will be a non combustible wall what type of clearances do you think I can get away with? I was thinking 6" . How far up wall do you think the heat will transfer at unsafe temp.
Installing a wood Stove inside Stone wall.
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It sounds like you are talking about basically building a fireplace to put a stove in if that is the case you should follow the codes for clearance on a fireplace to determine how much masonry you will need. Here is a link containing that info
http://www.rumford.com/code/clearances.html
http://www.rumford.com/code/clearances.html
A from scratch freestandng installation may be more expensive, but it will give good heat if done well. This depends on how fancy you want to get. What you are describing is an alcove installation. It will require enough width to meet the stove clearance requirements.
An insert goes into an existing fireplace. Is there also a fireplace or did you mean a zero-clearance fireplace instead of an insert? If you want a ZC fireplace that is moderate in price take a look at the Valcourt Lafayette and the Pacific Energy FP30 for starters.
An insert goes into an existing fireplace. Is there also a fireplace or did you mean a zero-clearance fireplace instead of an insert? If you want a ZC fireplace that is moderate in price take a look at the Valcourt Lafayette and the Pacific Energy FP30 for starters.
they said about closing off the opening on either side which is what made me say it was like building a fireplace. If left open i would agree it is like an alcove and then just go by the stoves alcove requirements
A zero clearance like those would be perfect but they are over $3k and the whole point of installing wood stove is to save money. I was looking at getting the same look with one of those cheaper wood stoves from tractor supply.
I was planning on a 6' wide wall section to work with could be up to 8'
I don't plan on making an actual fireplace. I was going to have the chimney pipe come out the back of the wall and straight up. I just want it to look built in like a zero clearance by making an alcove and welding flanges to the sides and top of wood stove to cover the alcove.
I was planning on a 6' wide wall section to work with could be up to 8'
I don't plan on making an actual fireplace. I was going to have the chimney pipe come out the back of the wall and straight up. I just want it to look built in like a zero clearance by making an alcove and welding flanges to the sides and top of wood stove to cover the alcove.
OK, an alcove installation with a cheap stove will still run about $3000 if you include the chimney and hearth. Take a look at the Englander 30NC and the Drolet HT2000 while you are at it. Englanders are sold at HomeDepot. It may take a call to their tech support to find out if there are any special alcove considerations. Usually at a minimum the ceiling height must be at least 84".
I found it. It says 6" top and sides. can think of any problems with my plan? Will adding flanges make any problems.
We have several alcove installations posted here. Following all clearance guidelines and hearth requirements plus a good chimney system, this should work well. I see no problem with angling the walls outward. That will just increase the clearance to combustible. What stove are you looking at?
Make up a sketch with dimensions and post it here along with a picture of the proposed location. It's cheap to mock up on paper, but expensive once you start cutting wood and roof.
Make up a sketch with dimensions and post it here along with a picture of the proposed location. It's cheap to mock up on paper, but expensive once you start cutting wood and roof.
Yes I would think that closing off the opening would trap allot of heat in there and possibly over heat the stove Plus modifying a ul listed stove will void that listing which can cause problems with insurance and code compliance I would suggest just making an alcove and leaving it open it is much less complicated and will heat better anyway
I haven't decided on a stove yet something like the new engender would be in my price range. I was also thinking about using an insert because they already have the flange on I want to cover the alcove opening. I will try to come up with sketch.
If you use an insert it really needs to be in a fireplace which means you need to build one to code. It could still have a prefab metal chimney but it would need to meet all of the requirements of a fireplace spelled out in my previous link.
That was one of my concerns. The back of the stove will actually be open into the utility room behind wall though. Do you think I would be better off using an insert or would no using it for intended purpose cause an issue.
In that case over heating should not be an issue but attaching flanges to the stove is still generally not recommended. When you decide on a stove you would have to ask the manufacturer about it
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Don't know about down your way, but double sided stoves (windows on both sides) are quite popular over here..
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http://www.vestastoves.co.uk/main/blog/
http://www.archiexpo.com/prod/ruegg...-closed-hearth-contemporary-59286-290560.html
....and here's the stove version of a wide-screen plasma TV!
http://www.archiexpo.com/prod/focus...d-closed-hearth-contemporary-2464-200167.html
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http://www.vestastoves.co.uk/main/blog/
http://www.archiexpo.com/prod/ruegg...-closed-hearth-contemporary-59286-290560.html
....and here's the stove version of a wide-screen plasma TV!
http://www.archiexpo.com/prod/focus...d-closed-hearth-contemporary-2464-200167.html
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OK, I'm with you now. Pictures really help. What you are calling flanges are normally called the surround for an insert.
If you build the wall out of entirely non-combustible materials (steel studs, durock, stone veneer) then the right hand pic would be possible if blessed by the stove mfg. Not sure about that top clearance though. It may be a no-go. But it won't look like that stove unless you are willing to spend more. How large an area will the stove actually be heating?
Here is a medium sized stove that looks like that, but it has 84" top clearance for alcove:
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its 2,000 sf.
I found a stove. Lopi I never heard of it but it actually has surround panels as an accessory. I guess the same stove can be free standing or an insert and has a top clearance of only 6". But like anything you want the price is high and close to the price of a zero clearance...
I found a stove. Lopi I never heard of it but it actually has surround panels as an accessory. I guess the same stove can be free standing or an insert and has a top clearance of only 6". But like anything you want the price is high and close to the price of a zero clearance...
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